Engeltje Cornelisz van den Bout, SM/PROG - 3 Husbands?

Started by Sharon Doubell on Friday, January 15, 2016
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1/15/2016 at 8:44 AM

A merge has given Engeltje 3 husbands: Hans Carelse van der Burgh; Bartholomeus Janz Koopman, SV/PROG and Jan Carelsz van den Burg, SV/PROG
Private User can you add Sources for the third - who was connected to your merge, I'm told? I'm stuck trying to find them :-)

1/15/2016 at 8:55 AM

I only know about Koopman

1/15/2016 at 8:57 AM

This is what we have:

She married (1) Bartholomeus Coopman from Utrecht in 1688: Church Registers - Cape Town Congregation, Cape Archives (original in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk Argiewe, Stellenbosch), VC 603, VC 604, VC 605, VC 621, VC 622, VC 644, marriages, page 85.

1688 11 8br alsmede is An Stellenbos getrout Bartolemeus Coopman van Uijtregt weduwenaar met Engeltie Cornelisse van Rotterdam J.D

She married (2) Hans Carelse van den Burgh Church Registers - Stellenbosch Congregation, Palmkronieke 1, Doop Register Stellenbosch 1688-1732, and VC 639 marriages 1700-1788, original registers in the NGK Argief, Stellenbosch, G2 4/1, 4/2 and 7/1, VC 639 marriage, page 12.

1719 19 Nov' Hans Henske [sic] Wedr., met Engeltie Coopman Wede Bartholomeus

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1/15/2016 at 2:45 PM

I assumed that Hans Carelse and Jan Carelsz would be the same person.

The sources for both profiles seem to be about the same person
http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/bosmandevriesbuys/I232.html
http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g7/p7239.htm http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_der_Burgh-12

I really new to using this site, so I apologize if I've complicated things. I didn't at first realize the far reaching impact of me merging people on my tree with the hints Geni provides.

Private User
1/15/2016 at 2:47 PM

Those first two sources are from the Jan Carelsz profile, and the Hans Carlese profile has http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_der_Burgh-12

1/15/2016 at 10:27 PM

I am also a descendant of Engeltje vd Bout. As far as I know she had two husbands - Bartholomeus Koopman, and a Van der Burgh. I reckon Hans Carelse and Jan Carelse are the same person, and I would go for Hans on the basis of the inscription ' 1719 19 Nov Hans Henske (sic) Wedr.' etc.

1/18/2016 at 6:56 AM

Thanks Private User - you're correct: they are the same person, and your naming was better :-)

1/18/2016 at 6:58 AM

Agreed Piet.

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