Ruth Chase Winslow (Cole) - Needing Corrections?

Started by Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator on Saturday, November 21, 2015
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I think this profile has been wrongly merged with a Ruth wife of Lt. Job Winslow

References for Ruth Cole with this birth date, dau. of Daniel Cole of Eastham list her as the wife of 1st John Young, Jr. 2nd of Capt. Jonathan Bangs

Ruth's Smart Match with WikiTree just lists her as dau. of Daniel, the FamilySearch just as the wife of Jonathan Bangs. Although the Smart Match's WikiTrees for Job Winslow shows the wife as Ruth Cole the actual trees lists her as Ruth Unknown.

The about section on Job Winslow lists Ruth Winslow as being born 1653 where Ruth Cole dau. of Daniel was born 15 April 1651. Her about section lists (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=adge...) does not list her as Ruth Cole with the statement "Birth: (1a,b) In 1914 Richard Henry GREENE rejected the claim that Ruth was daughter of Daniel COLE. He examined several other possibilities, including placement in the family of Stephen HOPKINS, but came to no firm conclusion."

I think the actual wrong merge was done long ago but possibly a few undo merges can remove profiles for Ruth, wife of Job Winslow, so a new profile will not have to be entered.
Ruth Winslow was merged into Ruth Chase Cole by Erica Isabel Howton. Sep 21 at 9:59 AM
Ruth Winslow was merged into Ruth Chase Cole by Jeff Gentes. Feb 23 at 7:06 AM
Ruth Winslow was merged into Ruth Chase Cole by Sherry Lynne Clifton. Dec 14, 2014 at 1:38 PM

What are the Manager's/Curator's opinions?

Job Winslow & Ruth's eldest child William was born 16 NOV 1674

John Young & Ruth's children, Jonathan born 1673, Benjamin born 1675, Jane born 1682, Israel born 1686, Ruth born 1688, Barnabas born c. 1690, Abigail born c. 1695

She could not have been having children with both men around the same time period.

Job Winslow may have married a Ruth Cole but not the dau. of Daniel Cole, who married John Young & Jonathan Bangs.

'The New York genealogical and biographical record Volume XLV. by Greene, Richard Henry
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JOB WINSLOW'S WIFE.
By Richard Henry Greene.
Kenelme Winslow followed his brother, Gov. Edward Winslow, of the Mayflower pilgrims, to Plymouth, Mass., in 1629, coming, as is generally believed, on the second trip, with Winthrop's fleet, when thirty-five of the Leyden church came to join the pilgrims in New England.
Gov. Bradford in a letter to Mr. Shirley, dated May 25, 1629, says: "Here are now many of your and our friends from Leyden coming over. . . . With them we have also sent some servants in ye ship called the Talbut, that wente hence latly; but these came in ye Mayflower."
This, I think, proves that Kenelme Winslow and Josiah Winslow came in the same vessel in which their brothers Edward and Gilbert Winslow came on her first voyage in 1620.
Kenelme married after his arrival here, in June, 1634, Eleanor or Ellen, widow of John Adams, believed to be Eleanor Newton, who came on the Anne in 1623 (New Eng. Hist. Gen. Register, 33, p. 410). Kenelme had four children: Kenelme, Eleanor, Nathaniel and Job, the youngest who was born about 1641, probably at Marshfield, where his father had moved from Plymouth.
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He was one of the proprietors who purchased "Ye freemans lands at Taunton River" from the chief Wamsutta, April 2, 1659, called Assonet, later Freetown, where he never settled, but his son Job resided, coming from Swansea, where his house was attacked by Philip's men, July 18 or 19, 1675. He was there since about 1666. Job married about 1673 or Jan. 1674, Ruth —— . Here is the matter we are attempting to clear up.
Davis, in his Landmarks of Plymouth, says: Job married Ruth, daughter of Daniel Cole, of Eastham (page 290).
In the Descendants of Elisha Cole, by Jos. O. Curtis, N. Y., 1909, we find: Daniel Cole married Ruth Chester and had:
John, b. July 15, 1644; m. Ruth, probably daughter of Joseph Snow.
Timothy, b. Sept. 15, 1646.
Hepsibah, b. April 16, 1649; m. (1) Geo. Crisp; (2) Danl. Doane.
Ruth, b. April 15, 1651; m. (1) John, Nov. 16, 1669, son of John and Abigail Young; m. (2) Capt. Jonathan Bangs.
Israel, b. June 8, 1653; m. April, 1674-9, Mary Rogers.
James, b. Nov. 30, 1655.
Mary, b. March 10, 1658; m. May 26, 1681, Joshua, son of Gyles Hopkins; she d. March 1, 1734.
William, b. Sept. 15, 1663; m. Dec. 2, 1686, Hannah, dau. of Stephen Snow.
Daniel, b. Sept. 1666; m. Mercy, dau. Rev. Samuel Fuller.
Also, The Cole Genealogy, by Frank T. Cole, Columbus, O., 1887, gives Ruth, b. April 15, 1651; m. John, eldest son of John and Abigail Young of Eastham, b. in Plymouth Nov. 16, 1649. John Cole, eldest son of Daniel, who m. Ruth, dau. of Nicholas Snow, Dec. 12, 1666, and had a dau. Ruth, b. March 11, 1668; m. William Twining, whose third child was Ruth Cole, b. August 27, 1699; also Hugh and Mary (Foxwell) Cole, had dau. Ruth, b. Jan. 8, 1666.
The Genealogy oj James Cole of Plymouth, by E. B. Cole, Grafton Press, informs us that James Cole, m. 1624, Mary Lobel, b. London, and had: James, b. England 1624, and Hugh, b. 1627, in London probably. He came to New England in 1632 and Plymouth in 1633. This Hugh Cole m. Mary Foxwell, dau. of Richard and Ann Shelly; they removed to Barnstable; the first wife died in Swansea; he m. (2) Jan. 1, 1689, Elizabeth, wid. of Jacob Cook, and dau. of Thomas and Ann Lattice, of Plymouth; she d. at Swansea, Oct. 31, 1693; he m. (3) Jan. 30, 1694, Mary, wid. Ephraim Morton and dau. of Robert Shelly. He d. at Swansea, Jan. 22, 1699. Of his ten children the sixth was Ruth Cole, b. Jan. 8, 1666; m. Deacon Nathaniel Luther, June 10, 1693. Hugh Cole lived at Swansea at the same time with Job Winslow.
James Savage in I, New Eng. Genealogical Dictionary, at page 425, we read: Daniel Cole, Yarmouth, removed to Eastham 1643 . . . by wife Ruth had children (agreeing with Mr. Curtis
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above except Daniel, the last named), and there "he d. Dec. 21, 1694, aged 80, and his wife Ruth d. six days before, aged only 67."
On page 10, of Descendants of Elisha Cole, there is the Hopkins family, from which we abbreviate as follows: Stephen Hopkins, b. in England 1585; by his first wife he had two children: Gyles and Constance. Gyles Hopkins, b. about 1608; m. in Yarmouth, Oct. 9, 1639, Catorne, dau. of Gabriel Whelden, and d. at Eastham in 1690; they had among others, Joshua, who m. Mary, dau. of Daniel Cole; "the first of many marriages between the Cole and Hopkins family," according to the author.
I have been thus careful to show the Cole family, and have tried to show the locations where they lived; also to collect the daughters in that vicinity of the name of Ruth in order to determine who is right in naming the wife of Job Winslow.
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4. Ruth Hopkins, daughter of Gyles, b. June, 1653, three years after Bradford wrote. I find no account of her death, and no report of her marriage.
And though I find no record of established proof of her marriage, I see no reason or proof to the contrary. Job Winslow, we know, married a Ruth. Can any one say her last name was not Hopkins?
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It seems to me that Ruth is the 9th daughter of Nicholas and Constance. They had children almost like clockwork 2 years apart. Jabez was born in 1642 and Ruth in 1644. I don't know if that makes a difference. The 10th child Constance doesn't seem to have a consistent birth date or the two possible remain children-so we can rule it out that her birthdate was in the 1650's but seems unlikely. It seems that most such as wikapedia (not a very authoritative site, but something says she was married to John Cole son of Daniel Cole and Ruth Chester. The MA blog site, again, not authoritative http://massandmoregenealogy.blogspot.com/2012/08/nicholas-and-const... says the same thing. But I've no authoritative information to help. Sorry

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