Cause of death portal - update

Well done.

I think it is an outstanding example of how to organize projects related to eachothers!
And can bee used for many other subjects as well!

Madam Howton consider a natural death to include in the project
thank you

What would actually be an unnatural death when it comes to humans?

IF you have to make a diffinition I would say old age is the one that can be considered a natural death. OFcause that does not meen that they cant fit into some of the other categories.
But sometimes the body just gives up. Example I have here is my one Grandfather who died an old man. No one would have been able to pinpoint the actual cause of death. He was just old!

thank you Madam Boye for having finding the words i cant write in english

No one would have been able to pinpoint the actual cause of death. He was just old!

"- 66 projects have been created under this project umbrella "cause of death" as of 17 September 2015 "

Erica Howton

A great project which must have taken many days of hard work..

Yes, it was quite a few woman hours, particularly researching information for a few of the individual projects, as I knew little on the topic; still just a beginning effort for me, I'm afraid!

Martin - I'll look up what is called "natural causes"; if you know how it's written up in Canada that would helpful.

What about an unusual or freaky deaths project?

Erica Howton: for what I can see, medical certification in Canada frowns upon generic causes such as ‘old age’, ‘natural causes’, or ‘organ failure’. See p. 10 of the Handbook on Medical Certification of Death (http://www.publications.serviceontario.ca/ecomlinks/016600.pdf).

Anne-Marie

See http://www.geni.com/blog/genealogy-unusual-deaths-386847.html

(I have been looking into "spontaneous combustion" in fact so that's one project right there ...)

Alon

Good guidebook, thank you. The logic of how the death certificate is best written is laid out well.

So "natural causes / old age" (that we may see in older documents) is better written as something like

"respiratory arrest due to pneumonia"

How then would we handle the older reporting?

also - reading through the handbook again, it looks like it's actually two categories that may apply

"Old age" - Use only if a medical or surgical condition that may have contributed to the death is also mentioned

"Natural causes, exact causes unknown" - Use only if a medical or surgical condition that may have contributed to the death is also mentioned

(the latter would include the "died of grief" project we've been thinking about)

Soo dying of old age as my grandfather would that be organfailure.?

Looks like no one dies of old age anymore, it's been eliminated. :):)

No, they avoid organ failure also as a cause of death, of course organs failed; they would look for a sequence.

I think for my grandmother who died in the 1980's, it would have been written as

Heart failure due to congestive heart failure

Well I suppose Heart failure would always be the case!

When hard stops, you die!

Well, I think I'll set up a category

Natural causes, exact causes unknown

As that probably apply to most of our ancestors.

When we know the underlying cause (coronary artery disease > congestive heart failure > heart failure, as example), I think either / or / both CAD & CHF would apply.

Cancer, what if you do not know what type of cancer a person died from, like my mother? I was never told they probably thought I was too young to be told
Also euthanasia does that count as a cause of death?

I can't help but wonder if it's of interest for the general public to have such projects for each medical cause of death. Would people want to add their (close) relatives to such projects? And would they be interested in seeing who else is in it? It hasn't attracted much attention so far.

If we get a filter for cause of death in search results and projects, I'm afraid that most of your hard work might seem a waste.

Sorry to sound pessimistic. I do think you did a fantastic job setting all this up.

We could make a "cancer, not otherwise specified" category?

Euthanasia is defined as

Euthanasia (from Greek: εὐθανασία; "good death": εὖ, eu; "well" or "good" – θάνατος, thanatos; "death") is the practice of intentionally ending a life in order to relieve pain and suffering.[1]

Like other terms borrowed from history, "euthanasia" has had different meanings depending on usage. The first apparent usage of the term "euthanasia" belongs to the historian Suetonius, who described how the Emperor Augustus, "dying quickly and without suffering in the arms of his wife, Livia, experienced the 'euthanasia' he had wished for."[9]

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Draper argued that any definition of euthanasia must incorporate four elements: an agent and a subject; an intention; a causal proximity, such that the actions of the agent lead to the outcome; and an outcome. ...

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Perhaps a sub category under suicide called "assisted suicide," to distinguish from the same term being used for homicide:

Some governments around the world have legalized voluntary euthanasia but most commonly it is still considered to be criminal homicide. In the Netherlands and Belgium, where euthanasia has been legalized, it still remains homicide although it is not prosecuted and not punishable if the perpetrator (the doctor) meets certain legal conditions.[63][64][65][66]

(the above was gleaned from the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia)

Yao - never a waste if someone finds it useful, somewhere, sometime.

Most historic profiles I encounter do not have the cause of death field filled in. But Anne Brannen taught us that a death in Europe in 1349 was most likely attributable to the Black Death, so by searching on that year, she was quickly able to assemble 500 plus Geni profiles. How else could you do this?

As for nearer family -- my father had once tried to assemble a "complete family medical history."

Perhaps this is a way of meeting his wishes.

Private User
About my other grandfather who dies fairly early of diabetes, I have adden him because I somehow fell that knowlegde of family patterns maybe can give us an ideer of the dynamic of the deseas.
He had another brother who died young also of diabetes and in one of the siblings ofspring there are 3.cases of diabetes.
What I want to say is that I this way can connect with people that have exsperianced and taken the same route as you have.

Does that sound crazy to you?

Anette - so I went to try and get the death record for my grandfather who died of diabetes in 1963, and just found a tree for a whole other branch of my family I only vaguely knew about!

Investigations can lead you unexpected places.

That is exactly my point Erica. You never know what you find when you start schratching the surface!

I wish there was an easy way of using the linked profiles on http://www.geni.com/projects/World-War-One-Casualties/8839 to a KIA project - we could just have a link under Killed in action? I am planning to expand the WW1 UK projects (Conscientious Objectors done) with a "Shot at Dawn" project (I have made a start and hope to get it sorted over the next week) which I could link in the same way.

Re: - we could just have a link under Killed in action?

Yes, June, that's exactly the way I was thinking.

In other words, we could create an umbrella project, Killed in Action, all wars.

And have linked projects for specific wars & countries.

Perhaps if there isn't such a specific project (or not one yet) profiles could be added to KIA until such a project is made, and later moved.

Also I think we want to follow WHO categories for combat categories? I'm pretty sure they break it out into KIA, KBW, MIA (presumed dead); and I'm not sure how they categorize Killed by Disease (in service), Friendly Fire, and Collteral Damage (civilian deaths).

Erica Howton

I am going to do a project for Cholera as my 3rd great grandfather died of this... Would you or another curator check it out & link it to all the places it needs to be??? Thanks...
Pat

Patricia, go for it!

Patricia Ann Scoggin

I will gladly assist. Let me know when the project is up and running.