Peregrine White, "Mayflower" Passenger - Y-chromosomal DNA

Started by Private User on Thursday, September 3, 2015
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Private User
9/3/2015 at 11:45 AM

I am curious if any well-substantiated male-line descendants of Peregrine White have been tested.

The collaborative efforts of Geni have placed me as a 9th great-grandson by male descent. If I have the same Y-chromosome, it'd be a considerable boost to my confidence in the connection.

9/3/2015 at 1:50 PM

Normally I'd suggest using the Lists feature to pull a list of descendants with claimed Geni profiles. In this case I think there's a limit with lists that won't search beyond a certain number of generations. A search doesn't even pull up you as a descendant, but Geni does show the direct relationship.

Mike Stangel - Can you fill us in on that limit?

9/3/2015 at 2:22 PM

Good question, Jonathan Scott Krengel! There's a performance limitation on how much of the tree we can search in the amount of time that you're waiting for the web server to respond. The limit is on how many profiles we search, not how many results (e.g. claimed descendants) we find. For the list views and most other places, we search 5000 profiles. For descendants, that means all of the children first, then all of the grandchildren, then all of the great-grandchildren ("breadth-first" in computer science parlance) until we've found 5,000 profiles and then we stop. If you're descendant #5001, you won't show up on the list.

9/3/2015 at 2:23 PM

Out of curiosity I had to check where Private User shows up -- descent number 8,940!

9/3/2015 at 2:57 PM

Mike Stangel - Hmm, background job reports could be a nice Pro feature.

Private User
9/3/2015 at 5:26 PM

Eleventh generation. If every descendant managed an heir and a spare, there's over 2000 unbroken male-line descendants in my generation. I don't think Geni can search for direct male-line descendants. Let's assume, then, three children. We're most of the way to 200,000 people in my generation. Peregrine likely exceeded 5000 descendants around the eighth generation, or my great-grandparents' generation. Of course, not all descendants are going to be in Geni, but a good many will among a group so well-researched as this.

I was hoping the prominence of Peregrine White being (born) on the Mayflower would mean that the Y-chromosomes of some substantiated descendants would have been genotyped.

Knowing whether the Geni collaborative might be right or can't be right would make a difference in how I approach the research.

9/3/2015 at 6:27 PM

So it's still possible. It just means you have to break it out and use each of the direct male line grandsons of Peregrine as starting points. This may not reach all claimed descendants.

Mike Stangel - Could the list feature tell us if it had completed the search or reached the limit? This would be helpful information.

William White
19 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

Benoni White
0 Male claimed descendants

Ensign Mark White
5 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

William White, Sr.
23 Male claimed descendants. 1 of them with the White last name. (I think this is Private User

Alexander White, Sr.
14 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

Joseph White
0 Male claimed descendants

Ebenezer White, Sr.
1 Male claimed descendant. Not the White last name.

Jonathan White, II
2 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

Benjamin White, of Marshfield
20 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

Ebenezer White
21 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

Cornelius White
14 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

Thomas ‘cordwainer’ White
11 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name. 1 with no listed last name.

John White of Marshfield
30 Male claimed descendants. 0 of them with the White last name.

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