Walter David Peter Doubell - Sources for Birth & Death Dates?

Tried the number of MyHeritage users displaying his profile?

I think it may come from there, Daan - but you never can see the Sources. (Or am I being stupid?) :-)

Note by Tony Leach - his birth location, Swartruggens, is not the town of that name in Northwest Province, west of Rustenburg (too early in the 1800's for this area to be visited by anyone but itinerant hunters/explorers). It is most likely a place whose name has changed, somewhere in the Uitenhage area, as this fits with other Doubell family locations, in addition to which several 1820 settlers' locations also indicates a 'Grootfontein, Swartruggens, Uitenhage' area somewhere close to Uitenhage. Better possibilities might be the Swartberg (mountains between Ladismith and Willowmore in the Cape), or Swartkops (a village 11 km north of Port Elizabeth, and so is close to Uitenhage).

Sampie Kotze's Register (I think most likely taken from the Suid-Afrikaanse geslagregisters) - places Walter as b2, and has a b4 brother, Michael, born 8.4.1834
- making it impossible for Walter to be born on 9 July 1834.

Iets verkeerd erens.

Pending someone finding Sources or an explanation, I'm removing the 9 July 1834 Swartruggens birth data as incorrect.

I'm also removing the 1902 Death Date (not mentioned in the SAG) until we find the Sources that validate it.

To be noted is that his first marriage was in 1853 - so, if his birthdate is put at 1834 - that makes him 19 when he gets married. Not impossible at all, but less likely than a date that puts him in his twenties.

Regarding Swartruggens, I see there is a note added in the overview by David Abraham Swanepoel:
Zwarteruggens was a field-cornetcy, in the district of Graaff-Reinet, adjacent to Uitenhage after the formation of the latter. It can be seen on a map in the source below, p.120 (PDF 145/645). The author cites another source for the map.

Swanepoel, Christiaan Hendrik. 2003. 'n Tak van die Swanepoel-familie in Suid-Afrika, 1699 tot 1999: 'n genealogiese en kultuurhistoriese studie. MA tesis, Universiteit van Stellenbosch. Free to download at: http://scholar.sun.ac.za/handle/10019.1/53526. File 64MB.

Of interest to Tony Leach

However - still no birth documentation in sight :-/

For me it seems clear he fits in here, using his Dutch ancestry and naming conventions, the names of first son and 2nd daughter ties up to his parents. It follows, if you can proof them, then you proof his parents.

I could not locate a Death Notice for him, whilst a baptism record / birth documentation seems unlikely in this case.

Oh yes - he does fit here - but it would be so great to find docs. Thanks for looking.