Good idea?

what do you mean? projectpages without managers? why not mention their titels first? was is really rubbish?

How do you know they were abandoned? I would have liked to have seen a list of titles too. I might have adopted one or two of them.

Were there any project descriptions with these empty messages in bottles? lol

Agree with Charlene Newport.

The proper thing to do would have been to submit a list of the 'abandoned' projects and seek someone to assume 'management' of them.

Private User,

I would really like to know if any had text in them.

Kevin

There are always a lot of junk projects created by users who were just playing. I trust the judgment of experienced curators like Anne-Marie to sort the good from the bad.

Is there a way to spot those junk projects?

They may not have been 'Junk' Projects. Whoever started them, like me, may not have been able to complete the project - due to a number of reasons (being a free member being the biggest). It may have just been that a Geni Curator or a Pro member needed to take over the project so that it could continue.

Also... They might have bee "finished" projects. Just because someone hasn't been an active manager in a number of years (a lot of members only come by infrequently - and profiles have to be inactive with an ACTIVE member WANTING to update it for it to be listed as abandoned) doesn't mean....

I forget where I was going with this.

So ===> HOW do you know they were junk?

Please reply. This is an important question. Like me, I don't think anyone above would want to find out later that their work was 'DELETED' by someone who got bored.

Had that happen to some of my profiles and it really *ahem* irked me. :(

What parameters were you using to identify these projects?

sorry if I said something off. I didn't see what Justin had said.

Justin Durand, indeed there may be some users who were just playing. However to delete indviduals' projects based solely on curators' judgement may be construed as being presumptuous.

There should be some sort of due process for 'abandoned' projects. (similar to when Geni transfer management of profiles in abandoned trees)...and may be according to process stated in previous comment.

Agree with you Wendy Sue Hall

It's a matter of respect and my previous suggestion would be in accordance with the nature of Geni: COLLABORATIVE

Agree with Ailene Nechelle House

This is a collaborative website, not one person or curator should make a decision like that.

If you sort through projects, you'll see it's very common to find projects that have no text, no profiles, no collaborators, a "junk" name, and were created more than a year ago. I suppose someone could argue that these are a valuable asset that must be preserved at any price because they could turn into something someday, but the way I see it it's easy enough to re-create them.

We've had this discussion before. The general opinion has been that a project more than a few weeks old that has no text and no profiles is probably junk.

agreed.

It's always good to get rid of junk, I just don't think should be one persons decision. Put up a list and if after a certain amount of time no one objects then delete.

I only deleted my own unused projects that had no collaborators by the way. I mean if everyone does his own

I would never deleted someone else's projects that is not up to me

So if I am understandings this correctly, some projects do only have project titles, and that's it. Then I see no reason at all why it is not a junk project.

I think what a curator can do, is to make contact with the person who created this project to establish weather it is junk or not. I think that person can decide that for him/herself and remove it, if it's junk.

I can't see no difference between abandoned profiles and projects. If a person is no longer active for more than a year, it is justified to delete the project.

Another idea could be that some of the titles of these 1 year abandoned junk projects could be good project ideas.

Why not create a project for these 'messages in a bottle' projects, for everyone free to continue with it and develop it into a great active project?

Let it be second-hand shop for junk projects and see what happens. Maybe the list gets shorter over time. Who knows?

Btw the delete option is only available at your own projects the system does not allow us to delete projects from other people

I think there is some confusion here because different people are picturing very different scenarios.

If I see a project called "Sue's Ancestors" and Sue has left Geni or is an abandoned account, and the project has no text and no profiles, it's hard to imagine (for me at least) that it is not junk.

If it's my own project (as in Anne-Marie's case), and there are no other collaborators, I assume I have the right to delete it. If there are other collaborators and for some reason I'm not interested, I just remove myself and leave them to it.

If it's someone else's project, and the creator is still active on Geni, then I suppose I could join or not, and I could help or not. If the creator is an abandoned account, I suppose it would depend on the project title. If it's a personal title, I would judge it to be junk. If it seems like something that someone else might care about, then join it and add drop in some text and profiles to make it a bit more attractive.

I did think you were talking about other people projects. If it's your own projects and there's no collaborator's do what you want with them.

I completely misread your first post, Anne-Marie. Sorry for that

Projects can be filled with loads of collaborators and yet not contribute to the project at all. In that sense you can only judge yourself in how active you have been on it.

Clear out the list of collaborators and invite some new people and see what happens next, maybe? Otherwise I see no obstacles whatsoever in terminating your own unsuccessful projects.

As it is not possible to delete projects from others and the fact I posted this in the project discussion from a project where everyone adds his/her own project I thought everyone would understand I was talking about projects created by myself, sorry if I caused utter confusion and upset I should have mentioned the fact I was talking about projects I created that had no further activity and no collaborators.

The reason I posted this is when you join the project you will need to go looking for your own projects, maybe it is a good opportunity to check your own projects and see are they obsolete, unused and remove them if you think there not going anywhere. Thats all.

Completely clear to me now ☺

Thanks for clearing that up Private User.

:-)

Thanks Private User

Also..............Great reminder for everyone to review own projects
(e.g. delete, modify description/purpose, tag to related projects)