Captain John Martin of Jamestown - Reported children of John Martin of Martin's Brandon

Apparently there was a Persian in the Jamestown colony.

From http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/melungeon/24419/

There is more information about John Martin the Armenian, that is not generally known.First, we need to distinguish between John Martin the Armenian, age 29 (in 1622), and an older Englishman of the same name - Captain John Martin, aged 55 (in 1622).

John Martin the Armenian, actually appears in 1618 as the personal servant of Lord Delaware, then-governor of Virginia.Lord Delaware became sick and died later in 1618, while sailing to Virginia on the ship, Neptune.John Martin the Armenian, was in Delaware's service on that voyage.Martin testified on 13 April 1622, that "he doth very well know the Lady Cicely Delaware...and he did very well know the right honorable Lord Delaware, deceased, when he lived and did attend him in his chamber when he was in England, and when he went that voyage and did attend him in the ship when he died in the way as he went to Virginia."

In another deposition on 29 April 1622, Martin describes himself as "John Martin, gent., a Persian borne, aged 29."

Enjoying this biography

https://books.google.com/books?vq=Martin+brandon&pg=PA943&i...

The accounts of him, like the accounts of many of our founders, have been based on unfriendly evidence; but justice does not permit us to condemn him without giving him a hearing, and although we have nothing that he wrote in his own defense, we know that he devoted his life to the colony, and this fact speaks much better for him than if he had devoted this time to untrustworthy volumes of selfpraise. Captain Smith has given us his opinion of Martin, and we can very well imagine what Martin thought of Smith.

He fills an unknown grave, probably at Brandon, on the James. His dust aids in making the soil of the Old Dominion sacred, and we will not forget that he was the only man to protest against the abandonment of Virginia on the memorable morning of June 7, 1610.

Here's the Bargrave family Dorcas, daughter of John Martin, married into

https://books.google.com/books?id=BWNX76LY2AQC&lpg=PA28&ots...

"Rise & Fall of the House of Bargrave"

I believe the marriage of Dorcas Martin & George Bargrave was 1616 - and it was indeed "this" Capt John Martin. George's brother John was a heavy investor in the Virginia Company, and another brother, Thomas, spent a large portion of his life as a churchman in Virginia.

https://books.google.com/books?id=BWNX76LY2AQC&lpg=PA28&ots...

I'm going ahead and attributing Dorcas to Mary Brandon as mother. So far I've seen no further record of her beyond her 1586 marriage to Capt John Martin, but the chronology is OK for a daughter marrying 20 years later.

All the names are showing up now. It's true: the Virginia Company not only were investors, they sent their family to look after their investments. They "did" have many "old country" ties in Jamestown.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Jordan

Jordan traveled to Virginia in 1610, according to his 1620 patent:

...to Samuel Jourdan of Charles Citty in Virga. Gent, an ancient planter who hath abode ten years Compleat in this Colony and performed all services to the Colony that might any way concern him etc and to his heirs and assignes for ever for part of his first genll. dividend to be augmented &c, 450 acs. on his personal right, etc. and ...[for] the personall claim of Cecily his wife an ancient planter also of nine years continuance, one hundred acres more and the other 250 acs. in recompence of his trans. out of England at his own charges of five servants, namely John Davies, who arrived in 1617 for whose passage the sd. Samuel hath paid to the Cape. Mercht., Thomas Matterdy bound apprentice to sd. Samuel by indenture in England dated 8 Oct 1617; Robert Marshall brought out of England by Capt. Bargrave in May 1619, at the costs of sd. Samuel; Alice Wade the same year in the George, etc., & Thomas Steed in the Faulcon in July 1620; and maketh choice in 3 several places: one house & 50 acs. called --ilies Point [Bailies Point] in Charles hundred, bordering E. upon the gr. river, W. upon the main land, S. upon John Rolfe and N. upon the land of Capt. John Wardeefe [Woodlief]; 2ndly, 1 tenement containing 12 acs., etc., encompassed on the W. by Martins Hope, now in tenure of Capt. John Martin, Master of the Ordinance; & 388 acs. in or near upon Sandys his hundred, towards land of Temperance Baley, W. upon Capt. Woodlief, etc."[2]

On the tract of 388 acres mentioned in the patent ("...towards land of Temperance Baley, W. upon Capt. Woodlief..."), Samuel Jordan established a plantation known as "Jordan's Journey" (also known as "Beggar's Bush").[3] In 1622 Jordan acquired an additional 100 acres (0.40 km2) on the north side of the James River by assignment (i.e. by purchase) from Mrs Mary Tue, sister and executrix of Lieutenant Richard Crouch.[4]

Crouch being the maiden name of Capt Bargrave's mother, and this Capt Bargrave being Capt Martin, Master of Ordnance's son in law (husband of Capt Martin's daughter Dorcas, who survived Bargrave & married an Adney second).

I'm not sure that Dorcas Martin was ever in Virginia herself though.

Our John Martin got rowdy - and violent - as well as disputatious. In fact I wonder if a Master of Ordnance could have had something to do with Capt John Smith's exploding gunpowder horn, which chased him out of Virginia, never to return, despite his promises to Pocohantas & her people.

Currently tracking a cattle dispute with his daughter's uncle by marriage John Bargrave, whose son was "the traveller" Dr. John Bargrave

And then there's this court proceeding

PERNICIOUS ADVENTURERS

"Touchinge the Kings Forrest so named in the peticon, it is a name happily knowne to Capt: Martin and his Associats but not to the Company, and in the circuit of that Territory wch they are pleased to call the Forrest are placed both James Citty beinge the principall Citty in Virginia, and place of residence for the Gouernor and Counsell and also diuers other principall plantacons and namely that of the Citty of London.
"Touchinge the Deere it is true that generally the whole Countrie of Virginia is replenished with them, but for the swyne they are no other than ye breed of such as haue been transported thither by the Companie: And it is unto them y* Capt. Martin who is said to haue ruined as well his owne State (if euer he had any) as also the estate of others who put him in trust (as namely Capt. Bargraue) and who hath made his owne Territory there a Receptacle of vagabonds and bankrupts and other disorderly psons (whereof there hath bin made publique complaint) and who is famous fornothinge but all kinde of base condicons so published in print by the Relations of the proceedings of the Colony about 10 yeares since, and who for the said condicons was displaced by the Lord De Lawarr from beinge of the Counsell as a most unworthie person, and who hath presumed of his owne authority (no way deriued from his Matle) to giue uniust sentence of death upon diners of his Mat8 subjects and seen the same put in cruell execucon, should dare to offer himselfe to his Sacred Matio as a Agent either for matter of good husbandrie or good order.

From [https://books.google.com/books?id=X3kFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA314&lpg...  History of the Virginia Company of London:] With Letters to and from the First Colony, Never Before Printed Edward Duffield Neill Joel Munsell, 1869 - Virginia - 432 pages.  Page 314.

It seems Martin was at loggerheads with his daughter's brother in law.

I'm not seeing a female influence. Bet the women were home in Kent.

There is a kinship between this lovely ancestor Capt. William Tucker, of Kiccowtan the Poisoner

And John Bargrave of Patricksbourne, 1st of Bifrons

Who carried on a long court feud both in Virginia & England with Capt John Martin.

https://books.google.com/books?id=orDbMGpInaQC&lpg=PA110&ot...

Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary
 By Martha W. McCartney, page 110

Capt John Bargrave died prior to Jan 12 1627 at which time his widow was identified as Capt Tucker & Mrs Alice Boyce's kinswoman. (this one?

Angela Boys

From https://books.google.com/books?id=jC9fDj72fxAC&lpg=PA8&ots=...

Colonial Virginians and Their Maryland Relatives: A Genealogy of the Tucker ...By Norma Tucker page 22

Her name was Mary Mighall (or Michael) & she married John Bargrave 3 July 1571 in Dover, County Kent, England.

But the widow of "the 1st of Bifrons" was Jane:

http://library.uwinnipeg.ca/people/dobson/GFA/KentishAdministration...

1625 143 BARGRAVE, John Patricksborn Bernard Cliffe, creditor; Jane, relict, and Robert, son, renouncing 11 Feb. 1625   20 15

Therefore - two different John Bargrave's.

To quote Alexander Brown, the man sure of Dorcas (Martin) Bargrave's identity:

https://books.google.com/books?id=IVtKAAAAYAAJ&lpg=PA824&ot...

"He married, prior to 1600, Jane, daughter of Giles Crouch, of London, and at the visitation of Kent in 1619 had two sons and two daughters living. It is frequently hard to distinguish the captains Bargrave. Capt. George certainly made several voyages to Virginia. Capt. John "sent servants and shipping thither ;" but I doubt if he ever went there himself."

BUT the great W.G. Stanard claims "Mrs. John Bargrave" of the cattle dispute was Jane Crouch. See his footnote:

https://books.google.com/books?id=MZJLAAAAYAAJ&lpg=PA143&ot...

The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Volume 27  edited by Philip Alexander Bruce, William Glover Stanard. Page 142-143. "Minutes of the Council & Court - James City, 12 January 1626:"

A Court at James Citty the 12th of January 1626 being present S'r George Yeardley, knt Governo' &c
Capt. West Mr Claybourne
Capt. Smyth Capt. Tucker
Capt. Mathewes Mr ffarrar

Mr Wm ffarrar should require an account of the said Cattle from such in whose custody they have remained, and signify to the Court what number there is of them, that soe some course might be taken for better preserving of them Capt. Nathaniell Basse sworne & examined sayeth that about this time twelve month this deponent being at Kecoughtan w'th Capt. Tucker, the said Capt. Tucker desired this deponent to tell Henry Woodward that he should take three men of Capt Stones remaining w'th him untill that he heard fro' Canada fro' Mr Rastell, or untill Capt John Stone shoul come in, and then he should have all ye content he could desire. Benjamin Drury sworne & examined sayeth that about June last past one Samuel Aiton servant unto Henry Woodward who received him of Capt. Tucker as being one of the servants of Capt John Stone, showed unto this deponent a noate under written by Capt. Tucker, the contents wherof were as followeth Benjamin Drury & Samuel Tabott. I desire you to goe w'th Henry Woodward to Warosquoyacke, & to remaine w'th him there, till you heare further fro' your master Mr Stone out of England. And Henry Woodward shewed the noate to tis deponent before he went w'th him to Warosquoyacke At this Court Mrs Alice Boise bought in an Account of the cattle depending in controversy betweene Capt. John Martin & Capt Bagrave(8) and desired to deliver them upp out of her hands for that shee was unable to give in securitye for the same. Wheruppon Capt Will'm Tucker in ye behalfe of Mrs Bargrave, her kinsman, the wife of Capt Bargrave deceased did proffer to give in security to ye Court & take the said cattle into his possession, and to deliver upp the same when he shalbe therunto required wherefor Court hath herunto condescended & doe order that ye said Capt Tucker shall take ye said Cattle into his possession, & this is the rather done because Capt John Martin cannot, as hath bee dismanded of him, deliver in sufficient security as aforesaid.

(Stanard's comment)

(8) A paper published in this Magazine VII, 146, shows this to have been Capt. John Bargrave, of Patrieksbourn, Kent. Robert Bargrave, of Bridge, Kent, had a number of children. One of the daughters Ingle or Angel, married Rev. John Boys, afterwards Dean of Carterbury. The sons were Rev. Thomas Bargrave (who came to Va. about 1619 and died here in 1621, leaving his library, valued at 100 marks, to the College at Henrico), Capt. John, Robert, Capt. George, and Rev. Isaac, afterwards Dean of Carterbury. Capt. George Bargrave and Capt John Bargrave were both interested in the settlement of Virginia. See Brown's Genesis 823, 824. Capt Tuckers "kinswoman," Capt. Bargrave's wife, was Jane, daughter and co-heiress of Giles Crouch, of London.

Her name was Mary Mighall (or Michael) & she married John Bargrave 3 July 1571 in Dover, County Kent, England

Belongs to a previous generation and possibly a different Bargar / Bargrave family from that identified in The 1619 Visitation

Well hello Mayflower Christopher Martin

Christopher Martin, "Mayflower" Passenger

A comment here:

http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/martin/20550/

As for Capt. John Martin, Hills states: "John Martin was an influential Merchant Adventurer, and a prominent member of the Virginia Company until it dissolution. He was an efficient member of the first Council. Other members of the Martin family either came with the first expedition or soon thereafter, including Richard, Thomas and Christopher Martin, later of the Mayflower." It is my belief that all of the above Martins emanated from Essex County, England. For further research, you might want to consult: History of Essex by --- Morant."

Would like to know more about Mistress Angela (Bargrave) Boys. Captured by Indians?

From http://www.historynet.com/powhatan-uprising-of-1622.htm

And here (easier to copy)

http://www.cynthiaswope.com/withinthevines/jamestown/dead1622.html

Among them were women of Martins Hundred, and they were later returned to Jamestown in exchange for peace. Among those in the muster are Mistress Boyse, sent march 1623 dressed like an Indian ìQueen,î  "

(note: Martin's Hundred was RICHARD Martin's plantation)