Edmund Perry - Wrong parents?

Started by Justin Durand on Sunday, April 26, 2015
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4/26/2015 at 12:39 PM

I'm skeptical that Edmund Perry was the son of Rev. John Perry, of London and his wife Judith Perry.

First, Edmund's profile says, "Edmond Perry was born on 27 Jan 1587/88 in Devonshire, England. He was the son of John PERRY and [__?__]. His mother was probably not Judith VASSELL (1567 – 1650)."

I think his father was a different John.

Second, Edmund is said to have been born in Bideford (Devon) and he married Sarah there. His daughter Hannah was born in Bideford. His son John was born in nearby Fremington.

Third, a Calendar of Wills for Devon shows the administration of a John Perry, of Fremington, in 1634.

https://books.google.com/books?id=3-o7AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA141&lpg...

Unless there is some hard evidence, I would suspect that Edmund, with all his documented links in Devon, might be son of the John Perry who lived in the same area rather than son of a minister in London.

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4/26/2015 at 5:46 PM

I've no objections to the parents being removed.

8/10/2016 at 8:58 AM

OK, I finally found where I obtained this info: (1) http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/i/m/Karen-M-Simmons/WE... says Sarah Crowell (daughter of John Crowell and Elishau Miller) was born 1592 in Devonshire, England, and died Bef. June 1659 in Barnstable, MA. She married Edward (Edmund) Perry on 1614 in Probably in Bridford, Devon, England, son of John Henry Perry and Sarah Rader.
MARRIAGE:
Bingham gives wife as "Sarah Betts", born 1582 in London, England
IMMIGRATION: 
Bingham gives arrival in Plymouth Colony in 1637
Call Number: www.family history pages.com/perry.htm
Title: BINGHAM FAMILY HISTORY-PERRY GENEALOGY
More About Sarah Crowell and Edward (Edmund) Perry:
Marriage: 1614, Probably in Bridford, Devon, England.

Children of Sarah Crowell and Edward (Edmund) Perry are:
i. +Ezra Perry, b. 1625, Bridford, Devonshire, England, d. October 16, 1689, Sandwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Place Born or
ID# NAME BORN DATE MARRIED ADDRESS/DIED

P Edmond Edward Perry 01-27-1599 Eng Devonshire -1614 MA
Sarah Crowell -1592 Eng ca-1614 02-12-1651 ?

P1 Hannah Perry 12-31-1607 Eng Bridford 01-09-1673 MA
P2 Arthur Perry -1611/14 Eng 10-09-1652 MA
P3 John Perry ca –1616 Eng 09-21-1642 MA
P4 William Perry ca –1620 Eng 11-05-1688
P5 Elizabeth Perry ca –1622 Eng 11-05-1688
P6 Hannah Perry -1623 Eng
P7 Margaret Perry ca –1623 Eng Devonshire
P8 Margaret Perry -1624 Eng 11-05-1688 MA
P9 Anthony Perry -1624 Eng 03-01-1683 MA
Pa Ezra Perry -1625/7 Eng Bridford 10-16-1689 MA
Pb Edward Perry -1628 Eng -1695 MA
Pc Margaret Perry ca –1629 Eng
Pd Edward Perry -1630 Eng
Pe Deborah Perry -1631/2 Eng
Pf Deborah Perry -1634 Eng 10-14-1665 MA

AND #2 from my cousin (which appears he got off Ancestry, a site I don't trust): Rev. John Perry, the English progenitor, was a citizen of Farnborough, England, a "clarke" (clerk) by occupation, rector of the parish of Farnham, according to Professor Perry, of Williams College, who has investigated the history of the family.  John Perry died in 1621, and the inventory of his estate in the consistory court at Winchester is dated August 23, 1621.  His widow Judith was appointed administratrix May 3, 1622.  The name of his son John is obtained from the records of the Clothiers' Guild of London.  Another son, William, born in 1606, a tailor by trade, settled in Watertown, Massachusetts, before 1642, died September 9, 1683, leaving wife and six children.
(II) John (2) son of Rev. John (1) Perry, was born in Farnborough, England, according to Professor Perry, in November 1604, assuming that he was twenty-four years old, according to the rules of his guild, when admitted to membership and made a freeman of the city of London.  His apprenticeship began shortly after his father's death in the Cloth Workers' Guild of London, and he seems to have been a weaver all his life.  After the great fire of London, in 1666, he and his son John emigrated to Watertown, where his brother was living.  John was there in 1674, and died probably soon afterward.  He married Joanna, daughter of Joseph Holland, who was also a weaver of London, of St. Sepulcher's parish, near Newgate.  She was mentioned in the will of Joseph Holland, her father, in 1659, as the daughter of his first wife.  In this will, Nathaniel Holland, of Watertown, New England, his son, was mentioned.  John Holland, the pioneer at Watertown, had a son Nathaniel.  Among the children of John Perry was John, mentioned below.
(III) John (3) son of John (2) Perry, was born, according to family tradition, in 1644, and came with his father to America in 1666.  He was also a weaver.  He married, December 13, 1667, Sarah, daughter of John and Sarah (Cassell) Clary, of Cambridge, Massachusetts.  A chest brought from England by Sarah (Cassell) Clary, bearing her initials and the date 1625 burned into the wood, is owned by Mrs. Isaac Hildreth, a descendant of 32 Merrick Street, Worcester.  Sarah Clary was born October 4, 1649, died October 11, 1730.  In 1701 and for some years afterward, John Perry lived at Brookfield, Massachusetts, on what is known as the Hair place, near Perry's pond, named for him.  About 1722, he returned to Watertown and died there in 1724, before December 23.  His wife's will in 1726, gave her property to Thomas Grover, in consideration of his care of her during her last years.  Children of John and Sarah Perry:  John, born October 1, 1668, died December 13, 1668; John, March 3, 1670, married Sarah Price, and lived in Cambridge; Joanna, November 8, 1672; Sarah, July 11, 1675, died young; Elizabeth, November 2, 1681, married Thomas Grover; Josiah, November 28, 1684, progenitor of a large family in Worcester; Joseph, mentioned below; Sarah, April 30, 1694.
(IV)  Joseph, son of John (3) Perry, was born at Watertown, Massachusetts, January 17, 1690-91.  He was a weaver by trade.  He had a grant of sixty acres at Brookfield in 1710, provided he live on the land four years after he was dismissed as a soldier.  He was in Captain Joseph Kellogg's company at Northfield, May 1719 to November 16, 1725 .  He married Mary _____.  He may have settled in Northfield.  Children born at Brookfield: John, mentioned below; Elizabeth, November 20, 1714, married, October 9, 1735, at Brookfield, Isaac White, who settled later at Greenwich, Massachusetts; Joseph, August 8, 1716, married (first) Margaret Davis and (second) Lois ____ and lived at Northfield; Mary, June 27, 1718.
(V) John (4) son of Joseph Perry, was born at Brookfield, November 13, 1712.  In 1755, John Perry, Philip Alexander and John Averill were the first settlers of Putney, Vermont.  Perry had lived at Northfield and probably at Westminister, Vermont, and Westmoreland, New Hampshire.  Michael Gilson, another of the first settlers, was born in Groton, Massachusetts, ...... The records of Putney are meagre.  According to the census of 1790, we find Amos, Joseph, William, William, Jr. and Job, heads of families in that town.  John Perry died before that time.  The records show that he was a settler, a citizen for many years.  Among the children of John Perry was William, mentioned below. 
(VI) William, son of John (4) Perry, was born about 1740.  In 1790, he was living at Putney and had in his family four males under sixteen and two females in his family.  Among his children was William, mentioned below. – ancestry . com <><> I really am not working much on the Perry side of my family right now - mostly the Russell and Allen families.

8/10/2016 at 9:17 AM

P.S. It is interesting that neither of the books, The Perrys of Rhode Island, and Tales of Silver Creek: The Bosworth-Bourn-Perry Homestead, by Calbraith Bourn Perry, 1913, nor The Life of Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry by Alexander Slidell MacKenzie, USN, Vol. 1, 1841 gives the names of the parents. Have you read The Second Boat, Vol. 12, #1, March-April 1991, The Search for Sarah Perry of Sandwich, Mass. in 1650? - an interesting article.

8/10/2016 at 9:42 AM

My 10th ggf and a surname much used for generations in my Johnson family. Moses Perry Johnson (my great grandfather) and many Perry Johnsons. down to this generation.

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