Eleanor Lee - lineage to Lee

Started by Private User on Friday, March 27, 2015
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Private User
3/27/2015 at 11:38 AM

Eleanor Lee's parents are shown to be William Lee and Cathren Ross
no information on Cathren yet.
Here is what I have on William
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William is reported and discussed on many pedigrees as being the son from George Lee's second marriage to Anne Fairfax (Washington) Lee. It is reported in a book available on the William and Lee University Lee Archives, that their William died unmarried and without heirs. The two children he had with Judith Wormley died without heirs, (one in infancy.
See - http://leearchive.wlu.edu/reference/books/alexander/04.html

The best cited accounting I have found so far discusses the possibility that this William Lee is possibly of the New Jersey Lees, but as far as those who are cited in the notes, no evidence of this man's birth or marriages exist.
See: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pegru...

Private User
3/27/2015 at 7:22 PM

I am confused, Jennifer. There are no parents showing for the profile in question.

Private User
3/28/2015 at 6:17 AM

I have chosen not to add them yet based on the conflicting information I have uncovered in my research. Currently in my family tree software, i have split the branch into a separate tree for William Lee and Cathren Ross.
If you will read the very detailed notes on the rootsweb link above, you will understand why. Until some documentation on the origins for the ancestors of either of these persons can be found, I prefer not to have them actually linked. The incorrect lineage attributed to William Lee is confusing at best. I have found some interesting possibilities regarding Cathren, but need to investigate more.

Private User
3/28/2015 at 6:46 AM

I think this is probably the person that the Lee DNA Surname Project calls "William Fairfax Lee" (ID 210, case no. T108378). They have his birth date as c. 1741, which is another conflict with the information above.

Although his Y-DNA haplotype *has* been identified as I1a, he isn't a close match to anybody (the closest, and it isn't very, is another I1 isolate at 87% and 4 mismatching markers out of 36).

Here's the chart with him at the top - THE Lees are about a third of the way down: http://leedna.com/dnaresults.php?id=210

Not that this helps with positive identification - it just excludes a large number of possibilities. :-(

Private
3/28/2015 at 8:47 AM

jcf isssue Private User? staying away from this

Private User
3/29/2015 at 9:46 AM

Nope, he's not in her direct line, so she's probably not interested.

Private
3/29/2015 at 10:24 AM

Private User i see.. is it possible that this line could be with george washington?

Private User
3/29/2015 at 10:47 AM

I don't know what you mean by "with" George Washington. Frederick County is a LONG way inland from the Tidewater, and most people who settled there, came down from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, the outer reaches of New York, etc. rather than east up un-navigable rivers and roads that were little better than game trails.

Mr Lee is a little young to have tied up with the Jost Hite crew, but maybe his parents...?

Private User
3/29/2015 at 10:50 AM

Meant "west" or "*from the* east" - old Typoman got me! :-O

Private
3/29/2015 at 10:53 AM

2nd great grandson connection...

Private User
3/29/2015 at 2:40 PM

Not as straightforward as that, Michael - kind of a twisty "round the mountain" path.

George Washington had no biological children (due to mumps at a critical age, or smallpox, or just bad luck).

Private User
3/31/2015 at 1:59 PM

Maven Helms, thank you for the information on the DNA project. I had read about that elsewhere, indicating the South Carolina connection, but hadn't yet looked into it. That connection looks more promising than the New Jersey one.
The name is indeed tied to my ancestor, Eleanor Hormell, but the origins are unclear. What I do know is that he died in Warren Co. Ohio. Beyond that, I am lost. Our family tree author's research records are not available to me currently, so the trail that lead to him is unknown.

Also, I put little faith into the Geni relationship path. I see that you have done quite a bit of merging, and that seems to be a good thing. The last time I checked my tree, I was related to my brother, not as my brother but as the brother-in-law to my sister-in-law's brother-in-law, because of my actual sister-in-law's parent's cousin's tree having many duplicate entries. I am also a cousin to Cher and Marlin Brando. Interesting but doubtful. I do look forward to clarifiying another relationship, of a Harrison, who seems to be in both of my parents' lines.

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