Immigration

Lúcia Pilla Do any of these projects work for you?

http://www.geni.com/projects/Holocaust-Survivors-ניצולי-השואה/2509

http://www.geni.com/projects/The-Kindertransport/12923

http://www.geni.com/projects/Raoul-Wallenberg-s-Swedish-Passport-Sa...

http://www.geni.com/projects/The-Kasztner-Transports/14866

http://www.geni.com/projects/Secret-Swiss-Holocaust-era-Lifesaving-...

http://www.geni.com/projects/Shanghai-Ghetto-הגטו-בשנחאי/11305

http://www.geni.com/projects/Heroes-of-the-Holocaust-The-Courageous...

I don't know, Malka. My focus is on people like him: Paul Veit Mautner who came to Brazil with his family during the WWII (1940) and is not connected to the BT (lost family). Could you help me?

I think he is not a hero or a survivor but may be it's impossible to me, who am not English native, judge the appropriated term.

Lúcia Pilla There is a link that I cannot understand in the
Latin American Jewish Odyssey Project, called Vienna to Venezuela. That might document how immigrants escaped to other areas like Brazil too.

1. http://www.geni.com/projects/The-Latin-American-Jewish-Odyssey/8833

1a. Vienna to Venezuela - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zuY_NOUChI&list=PLEBE79584...

2. http://www.geni.com/projects/Austrian-Jewish-Online-Resources/11316

Meanwhile, I will be delighted to start a new project for Jews of Brazil, and we could add a paragraph on Viennese Jews escaping the Holocaust.

Let me know what you decide.

Malka Mysels, about the Vienna to Venezuela documentary, there is a note that says the audio was removed because copyright issues.

About the new project, I would love if you start it! :-) I think that would be more embracing, not from Viena, not to Brazil... Like Holocaust survivors. I don´t figure a word to say in the place of "survivors".

It would be an interesting challenge trying to meet these immigrants to their families in Europe, isn't it?

Lúcia Pilla The term you are looking for is probably "Refugee" from the Holocaust.

Great, I will start a new project, "The Jewish Community of Brazil", and in the outline mention the safe haven Brazil offered European Jewish refugees from the Holocaust.

Great! Thks!!!

Malka Mysels,

Create a sub project for the town of Porto Alegre as I know that some members of my family went there.

Invite me into both projects.

Kevin

Why not every one together, Kevin Lawrence Hanit? Porto Alegre is one of more than 5000 cities on Brazil. (I born there.)

Lúcia Pilla,

Have a master project with all profiles in it and then sub-projects for placing someone in each of the cities that they lived in.

Kevin

Kevin Lawrence Hanit, Lúcia Pilla I will indeed create an overall Master Project, and will create the sub-projects if need or requests arise. Kevin wait till next week, this week I have had too many family commitments.

Malka Mysels,

I can wait until next week. Please invite me into both projects.

Kevin

Kevin Lawrence Hanit Sure thing!

I will create only the title to not lose the profiles that are waiting, ok?

Thanks Lúcia Pilla.

Lúcia Pilla Superb Title, thank you!

It's yours, Malka! hahahaha

Kevin, see this profile and the 2 projects that it has now: Gerda Brentani. The "from-to" is in the immigration project. I think it's not necessary split the reason of the immigration too.

Lúcia Pilla,

My cousin is probably not a holocaust refugee but a true Polish Jewish Immigrant to Brazil. His daughter was born in Porto Alegre in 1930.

Kevin

Do you like this one? :-)

http://www.geni.com/projects/Imigrantes-Poloneses-ao-Brasil-Polish-...

Thanks and I have added my cousin to the project.

Following these posts with great interest and will be a happy participant in the proposed project(s) but can't get too much more involved because I'm still writing the book! Many relatives in Brazil, Bolivia, Argentina, some who passed through the DR & Cuba...I'm bilingual in Eng-Span and can help in that area. Not so great in Portuguese but I get by.

I think the ideal project, if I understand our common goal, is to create a project about Jewish people who immigrated to Latin American countries at the time of the Holocaust. What do you say? I have been labeling them as "survivors" - because that is what they did - and entering them in the http://www.geni.com/projects/Holocaust-Survivors-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A6...
project.

Hi, Judith! 2 questions
Why only Latin American countries?
Survivors can never had escaped from Europe, isn't it?
I think this project more as a connection between immigrants and their families. See Paul Mautner cited below.
May be you prefer something like Holocaust Diaspora.

Lúcia Pilla and Judith Berlowitz

I agree that we need an umbrella project for those who "escaped" the Holocaust through emigration.

For me the description of "Survivors" relates specifically to having survived the "experience" of the Holocaust.

I would like to see a project that encompasses immigration to the various countries that accepted Jewish people / families from European countries. Many felt threatened by the impending WW2 and successfully moved to other countries.

Sub projects of these countries can then be tagged to the umbrella project much like has been established with other Holocaust specific projects.

The project is already here Pam Karp: http://www.geni.com/projects/Holocaust-Refugees/24607. We can changed the title, we can specified more the object... :-)

Lúcia Pilla

Thank you for letting me know. That's great !

Let´s move on! :-)

Judith Berlowitz Perhaps Lúcia Pilla can address the question of whether her project extends to Jew and non-Jew alike, ie. all who emigrated and sought refuge in a safe haven from the Nazis?

Paul Kahle - Christian Hebraist - fled from the Nazis to Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_E._Kahle

Georg Ludwig von Trapp - father of the Trapp family, whose story inspired The Sound of Music after fleeing Nazi occupied Austria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_refugees