Geni User Profiles & their Data: Once (living), recently Deceased. What happens to it all?

Started by Theresa Renée Eléna Tossas-Cox on Thursday, January 29, 2015
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1/29/2015 at 9:56 PM

Theresa,

Thanks for taking the initiative to preserve this information in a separate thread where it will be easier to find.

1/29/2015 at 10:14 PM

I appreciate, your appreciation of my appreciating the importance of the subject matter and the contributions therein, Justin. ;-) And I also, highly appreciate, your portion of contributions within! <3

1/30/2015 at 1:33 AM

I am sure that public documents & public images stay with the public profiles. You'd have to ask CS what policy is for private, but I would have thought they transfer over to the inheriting manager.

1/31/2015 at 9:40 PM

So, just to insure identity security, on items of public nature (and search-able in the www.), the original thread, which was at the beginning of this new discussion, has deleted and has also, been edited and will be re-posted here, very soon. (If some of you are wondering, where it went... it´s been deleted and will be edited and then, reposted.)
;-)

1/31/2015 at 10:28 PM

This is a thread, brought over/copied over, from the: "Curators, Please Assist" discussion thread, as the topic is not unimportant, though not the most comfortable... and deemed a discussion thread of it's own.
*(Not to mention, we were getting quite off topic, there.)

It started because my cousin, from Barcelona, Joan Tosas, passed away on November 11th, 2015. I mentioned that “I would like to eventually, connect him, to his Tosas Puig ancestors and therefore, would not ever, wish his profile, to simply be erased.”

It was pointed out that, since his was a singular proifle, as in, a stand alone Tree, reporting him as deceased might well result in his profile being deleted, and it was suggested, if I had his log-in information that I log in as him, connect him to myself and then close his account, giving the reason for closing the account as “deceased”. It was also mentioned that, if Customer Support had already marked him as unclaimed it was too late to do that - and that current rules would not allow his original profile to be connected.

I then, discovered something unsettling, which I described as follows (https://www.geni.com/discussions/142108?msg=997736 )
“As I went to seach my Fb messages, which Joan and I wrote over 4 years time, passing each other newly found Tosas/Tossas information, including the login to the Mundia site tee, my heart stopped!!! Apparently, his family, have deleted his Fb page, which automatically deleted all of these messages!!! OMG! I am crushed, right at this moment. :-(

There were so many links and messages etc., I had left in his care (I had sent on to him, as he was our "Catalan branch" department head, so to speak... which I myself, not being able to speak/read the Catalan information... )
I have messaged his sister and his son, in the hopes, one of them, will at the very least, be able to send me a copy of the GEDCOM.
Also, disturbing is that the Mundia (dot com) site itself, is also, no longer available,mas they have apparently completed the threatened "merge" with ancestry (dot com) and taken down their site!!!
Waiting for answer from Joan's immediate family and will then, see further.
:-(((“

1/31/2015 at 10:30 PM

Justin Durand then mentioned:
“A few months ago I asked Geni what will happen to all my Geni messages when I die. They said, the profiles I manage can be transferred to my sister or husband, but when my profile is marked deceased, all my messages with all those links and leads will disappear. “

In response to a question, he clarified thusly: “…not the public messages. There would be no reason for Geni to delete those because they contribute to all of Geni. What would be deleted are the private messages. That makes sense because those messages are intended for a small group, and anyone in that group would still have a copy (if they haven't deleted it).

My concern was because I often leave info in private messages, even though I know some of that info will be vital to my "genealogical heirs". I need to get it out of Geni and into a format that will be accessible to my sisters and step-sisters after I'm dead.”
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I then mentioned, “… my experience,
Fb all private messages, ALL tagged photos (tagged to YOU,,from the now, deceased and deleted Fb profile, all comments i.e. "See your fb friendship" is all just gone, when the second partied Fb Page is deleted.
Also, on Geni the comments, uploaded and identified pictures of those "identified" should they have not "originally" been deceased at the time of "identification" Tagging, comments board posts, private messages and I believe, the uploaded Photo albums, of the "newly deceased" i.e. Once Living, now set to "deceased", are sent into online- oblivion.
Please, correct me anyone, if I am wrong, here.”

Private User then commented (http://www.geni.com/discussions/142108?msg=998310 )
“My relatives who died after claiming a Profile on Geni - and whom Geni subsequently marked as unclaimed, are now marked deceased - they are still tagged in the Photos they were tagged in before they died.

Also - Public Discussions one created are still in existence.

What is gone - at least as far as access goes - is to see "Activity" for someone who had, but no longer has, a claimed Profile.

In Albums uploaded by Me and Family - I do not see the one a deceased relative had added listed. Are Photos and Documents we add to Geni deleted when we die, or what happens to them? Sort of would majorly defeat the purpose of uploading all this Documentation if that Happens. BUT - if nobody can make corrections or etc - that would also be bad.”

She also added: “The comments one made on Photos are still here (at least, located some - assume all are)”.

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