Mary Rebecca Briar - Problems with parentage

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I have unmerged your Mary Briar of Kittery, Maine from the other Mary Rebecca Briar.

Curators have an undo merge tool, so if this happens again, you can post in the discussion thread for Curator help and put a link.

Let's assume for now that Mary Rebecca Haley is not the same person. It is most likely just a common name.

I didn't see any information on the parents of Unknown Profile

This is a nice source and I cut and paste from this out of print book into the Overview section (About) of the three Andrew Haleys.

https://books.google.com/books?id=q45PAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA89&ots...

I agree however that there's more mystery to this. I'll see what I can find about Brian Hammond.

https://books.google.com/books?id=CfQgAQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA706&ot...

Another good source for the Haley family, but it does not solve the problem of trees on the Internet with Sarah Eastman or Emmonds (??) married to both Brian Hammond and William Briar and having overlapping children with both.

Thanks so much!

I would rather be one of the Hammonds. They have some folks who came over on the Mayflower!

I believe my Mary is the daughter of William Briar of Kittery Maine(son of Richard from Ipswitch, MA) and I just found a lot of criminal charges against him and his father in Kittery. ;)

Thanks for your help and all these sources. I think I need a trip out east this summer!

Okay, here you go. You were correct that these were all the same family.

"William Briar or Bryer possibly son of Richard by a former marriage perhaps a brother married about 1702 Sarah Eastman Jan 6 1712 13 he was appointed administrator of the estate of his father in law Robert Eastman He died 5 May 1718. Widow probably married 19 Oct 1722 Benjamin Hammons.

Children of William Briar were

William b 20 Dec 1702 m Elizabeth Weeks

Mary b 9 Jan 1705 m Andrew Haley 7 Aug 1727

Rebecca b 9 Jan 1708 m William Tapley of the Shoals 19 March 1726 7

Sarah b 12 Jan 1709 10 m Caleb Hutchins 15 Feb 1727

Adah b 4 July 1712 m William Wilson 1732

Elizabeth named in will bapt I May 1715 m Joseph Hutchins Pub 17 June 1732

Richard named in will

Margaret m John Haley

https://books.google.com/books?id=NMV8ijlqeA0C&lpg=PA303&am......

Since there are a lot of managers on the profiles that you are finding and merging, make sure to ask for help if you need it from them or from one of the curators, to leave them all in order. The last source seems to be the most complete / correct.

Private User touched this family sometime ago. He might know something.

Thanks! I've been paying for Ancestry.com but want to switch all my info over to Geni. Folks like you on this site are so helpful and knowledgeable. I appreciate it!
Kim

You're very welcome. It was an interesting mystery. Do make sure to leave the Hammond children attached to Brian and Sarah :) And you can put the links into the About, the way I did.

There's a nice trick to get the name of the book to appear, instead of just the ugly link. You use square brackets [URL Name-of-book].

Private User is another manager of these families who is active on Geni.

I'm curious how you found all this book sources so quickly. Are you a Haley and these were already in your library or is there a clearinghouse of sorts?

If you just searched google did you do it a special way?

Sarah Hammond

Benjamin Hammond

And as you see, oftentimes Google Books are a great source. They can be incorrect too, vital records for towns are better, but especially for the 1700s and 1800s they document local families. And are out of print so you can use them in the Overview. I always include a link to the book.

And you can use the scissors from the Google Book text to cut and paste into Google Translate to get a version you can drop into the About.

Also, MyHeritage which is the parent company of Geni, provides a data subscription somewhat similar to Ancestry. That allows you to see their family trees, Census records, marriage records from some states, etc. You will get a SmartMatch from a Geni profile to a MyHeritage source.

So while Ancestry is a great source for records, MyHeritage has many of the records also, as well as some additional sources such as newspapers.

Trying to clear this up and there is confusion on Sarah Hammond. Hatte's source above has Robert Eastman, but we have Nathaniel Eastman. So, trying to figure it out. Split Mary, who married Andrew Haley, from Margaret who married John Haley.

I think Sarah, daughter of Nathaniel married Nathaniel Ambrose. Sarah Ambrose

It looks like Sarah Eastman married Benjamin Hammond on 19 Oct 1722.

Great catches Jeff. I saw that two of the Briars had married Haleys.

I did put the information about the probably marriage date of Sarah Eastman up above from the best source I found.

https://books.google.com/books?id=NMV8ijlqeA0C&lpg=PA303&am...

I see that Sarah is attached here to Robert but in my ancestry tree and the records I've found her father is Nathaniel Eastman.

Kim, could you provide the sources for Nathaniel? It'd be interesting to compare what is out there and try to figure out if one is more reliable than another. As I mention above, it appeared that the Sarah, who was the daughter of Nathaniel married Nathaniel Ambrose. The sources Hattie presented and others I've see list William Briar's father-in-law as Robert Eastland.

Here is a little info on Sarah Ambrose

* http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=103482293
* https://books.google.com/books?id=dfluTmx4iogC&pg=PA74&dq=S...

I should note that I haven't yet seen the record for Miriam Eastman, wife of Robert. That profile was already attached to Robert.

* https://books.google.com/books?id=WkUtAAAAYAAJ&pg=PR220&dq=...

Some discussion threads:
* http://genforum.genealogy.com/haley/messages/892.html
* http://network.mainegenealogy.net/profile/DeborahGut

Troy writes "I have an Eastman family question as well. I'm looking for a Miriam Eastman, born around 1650 in Maine, who married Robert Esmond probably around 1675 in Kittery. I show they had 3 children, Sarah, Henry and Joseph Esmond. Any information on Miriam or Robert's parents?"

I think you are right, Jeff. I've been mixing up Sarah Eastman born in York County, Maine with Sarah Eastman born in Salisbury MA. Darn!

I can find info on the Eastman family of MA but who is this Robert? I don't see him listed as coming over with Roger Eastman.

And now it's Monday morning. Geez.

I'll upload a couple of things I've found if I can figure it out.. They include Nathaniel but do not point to Sarah that I can tell.

Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire

Esmond, Robert,Kit. gr. 1673, adm. 6 Jan. 1712-3, perh. long since dead. Lists 293, 298. Ch. unk: except Sarah, m. (July Term, 1703) William Briar(7). Also presum: Joseph, in 1708 was master of -The Miriam-, Kit. to So. Carolina. His deed, dated 8 June 1710, of whole est. to w. Miriam was proved by wit. 31 Aug. 1711. List 296. The wid. m. 17 Mar. 1713-4 Joseph Simpson. Henry, Kit. wit. 1706. Y. D. viii. 44.

Should I change Sarah Briar's maiden name to Esmond?

I've seen the name listed as both Eastman and Esmond and we actually have the name Sarah Esmond in the AKA. So we have both names indexed, but I have no preference on which is primary, so long as we document the other in the AKA. You could even do something in the Display Name if you'd like Sarah Eastman / Esmond.

I preferred Eastman as it seems to be more supported in the more reliable sources, but other sources do have Esmond so AKA is a good approach.

"... William Briar or Bryer possibly son of Richard by a former marriage perhaps a brother married about 1702 Sarah Eastman Jan 6 1712 13 he was appointed administrator of the estate of his father in law Robert Eastman He died 5 May ..."

So Sarah Eastman's father was Robert Eastman. This is from that last Google Books source (Old Kittery and Her Families) that I linked to. Page 303-304.