Herbrand Lotman dit Albrin 2nd husband - Mother born in America so how can son be from France?

PS: I found his actual baptism in New Amsterdam!

1660 Apr 14; Jan Lootsman, Witsje Hillebrant; Hillebrant; Jan Pieterszen, Paulus Janszen, Paulus Christiaenszen, Marritie Pieters

Certainl looks like a bad merge has happened at some point.

BUMP

I think there may have been a bad merge on this profile in 2011.

It seems to me from reading the texts quoted in the About that there are two men involved:

"Antoine Lothman de Barrois was sent to America in 1665, as Secretary, Councillor and Agent General of the East India Company."

AND

"Hillebrand Lootman and family had moved to Laprairie, Québec where two of his sons are baptized on 26 Jul. Hillebrand is baptized on 8 November and his name is changed to Jean Baptiste."

The birth and death locations seem to reflect Antoine.
The death date cannot be for Herbrand, perhaps is Antoine's?
The birth date cannot be correct for either man, perhaps some one split the difference? If Herbrand was born/baptised 1660 perhaps Antoine was born 1640, making him 25 when he arrives in NYC.
The wife and children seem to belong to Antoine.

I just noticed that this profile was split from the parents i mentioned in my first post, Jan Baptiste Lootman needs a son named Herbrand and this profile needs to be cleaned to be just Antoine.

New profile for "Herbrand" = Unknown Profile

hi Alex
http://genealogiequebec.info/testphp/info.php?no=70044

parents
Jean Barrois Marie Fournel
wife Anne Leber fille de Françoise Lefrançois et François Leber

i shearch for more data

Hillebrand Lootman aka Jean Baptiste Lotman

Hillebrand Lootman dit Albrin
http://genealogiequebec.info/testphp/info.php?no=317217

ann mary antoine and after hes death she married hillebrand>?

Herbrand Lotman dit Albrin 2nd husband - Geni
www.geni.com/people/Herbrand...dit-Albrin-2nd.../60000000,.

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on google shearch so the name was rename for antoine.....

1689 20 Dec; Hillebrant Lootman, ym liv near NA; Anna Elbur, wid Antoine Barroa, liv near NA

Hillebrant is a bachelor but Anna is a widow so Anna could actually be Marie Anna Lootman

i suspect that Antoine Barrois may simply have been Antoine Barrois and the Lootman has been mistakenly added by genealogists of following generations.

http://www.migrations.fr/images/ACTESMARIAGESREGIMENT/BARROIS_LEBER...

here the records marriage antoine son of
Jean Barrois Marie Fournel
wife Anne Leber fille de Françoise Lefrançois et François Leber

There is something wrong here.

Anne Le Bar is _seems_ has 3 husbands. First is Antoine and 2nd is Hillebrant in 1689

BUT

the 3rd husband is supposed to be Jean François Pinsonneau dit La Fleur

His son Jean-Jacques Pinsonneault dit Lafleur is married in 1712.

This site http://www.migrations.fr/compagniescarignan/compagnielavarenne.htm claims that Anne and Hillebrant have 3 sons between 1689 and 1698.

There is not enough time between 1698 and 1712 for Anna to get married have another son and for him to grow up and get married. So was Jean François Pinsonneau dit La Fleur a widower with children when he married Anne?
Or is it

Note: the bride in 1712 is Marie-Elisabeth Bourassa who is the daughter of Anne Le Bar's step-sister, Marie Le Bar.

http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Franc...

i think we can built the puzzle

http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Franc...

;)

I suspect there is another Anne Le Ber, a step sister or cousin of our Anne.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=cysuJ8JMIdMC&pg=PA108&lpg=...

the confusion is about ann and marie-ann sister

that cannot be the solution for who is married to Lafleur

http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Boura...

George J. Homs could i trouble u to lock the name date and location fields for Anne and two of her husbands - Hillebrant and Antoine as well as MPing and locking the children of those two men.

We know from the NA marriage that Anne definitely married these two men but, as i've described above, it seems unlikely that she was the mother of the children of Lafleur.