Going further back....

Daniel,
Here is what JRI-Poland.org says is currently available for Tarnopol.

http://jri-poland.org/town/tarnopol.htm

Familysearch.org says the following is available:

Film Notes (This family history center has 2 of 2 films/fiche.)
NoteLocationCollection/ShelfFilm/DGS
Volume 701-1/356 List of parishioners including birth years 1814-1890
Family History Library
International Film
2405432 Item 11
Volume 701-1/357 Metrical certificates of births, marriages, deaths 1833-1937 (some years missing and out of order)
Family History Library
International Film
2405432 Item 12

You might want to contact Mark Halpern or Stanley Diamond to discuss what can be done to index the years not yet on JRI-Poland. You could also order those two films to your nearest Family History Center and see if you can find people you are looking for?

I am currently borrowing copies for the 3 FHL Tarnopol films. It looks like most of the things they could index, have been. There is one pre-1858 BMD item on film 2405430 but it is very difficult to read. But I was able to pick out one or two things I am looking for.

Anything after the following dates
B - 1905
M - 1905
D - 1911

Are available online at http://www.geshergalicia.org/inventory/agad_fond_300/ and scrolling down to Tarnopol.

I agree that you should contact Mark and Stanley.

May I ask what surnames in Tarnopol you are looking at? Are you also looking at surrounding towns?
-Steve

Steven,
That is a good point about surrounding towns. Tarnopol is not just a city it is also an Oblast (or Województwa) and often people say "I was from Tarnopol" the same way a person from Syracuse, NY might say "I am from New York" and what they mean might actually be that they are from a tiny shtetl in the Tarnopol Województwa.

Niwes and Dressler are the names I am looking for in Tarnopol. I also have a great grandfather from a village in the Tarnopol region, whose parents were Rosen and Schwarz.

Daniel,
Any chance you could be more specific? I don't see any of those surnames in the tree you have on geni. Dressler is not particularly common in Tarnopol but there are a few towns that I have a lot of experience with in the Tarnopol area- Khorostkiv and Kopychynsti that have a lot of Dresslers and have records that imply births going back to the 1770s.

Sure :)

Chaim Meyer Niwes

Gittel Niwes (Dressler)

Aron Rosen

Taube Schwarz

Ok,
So Gittel is the daughter of Schaje and Lea Dressler.
She has a brother, Chaim born 11 feb 1861 in Tarnopol and married to Freude Page Imber in Tarnopol (civil marriage) 1899.
And it looks like she has a brother Benjamin and a sister Ester born in Khorostkiv 1863 and 1865 respectively.

Schaje died in Ternopil in 1908 at age 74- so born c. 1834

It's just a guess, but if I were a betting man, given that Schaje's first daughter was named Esther and there is an Abraham and Ester Dressler in Khorostkiv whp would be the right age to be Schaje's parents it is certainly a distinct possibility.

I don't see anything useful on Chaim Niews yet and I wiill look for Aron and Toni shortly.

So Toni Schwarz is Taube Schwarz and her parents are Josel and Golde Rifke.

Aron died 1899 at age 36 so born 1863. His parents are Hersch and Perl.

Looks like Aron and Taube were married and living/died in Zloczow but Aron perhaps born in Hordenka.

Hersch Rosen died in Zloczow in 1896 at age 62 so morn 1834. His parents are Juda Rosen and Rifke Lea Fasman. Probably they were born as early 1810.

http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/300/sygn.%201946/pages/PL_1_300...

Note there is also the civil registration for the marriage of Hersch and Perl in 1899 - they were married in a religious ceremony much earlier. Perl is Perl Ecker and she was born circa1842. Her parents are Mojżesz and Chaje. Assume they were born c. 1820 or earlier.

Thank you! That is amazing. How did you find all that?

I don't think Schaje is a first name.

If I may interject again - Schaje is indeed a first name and is interchangable with Osais and for at least one of the people I am looking at - Zacharje.

You guys are great.

The only sibling of Gittel's that I know of is David. I have two kids recorded for him, but no wife.

Schaje (soft J) often a short form for Yeshayahu or Yehoshuah (Joshua) many alternate spellings. In Yiddish Osias is a common form. Could be anything in local secular. In Warsaw area commonly Stanislaw and like Steven, I have seen Zacharias as well.

For given names http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm

Is a great resource to start with.

As to the records, they are pretty easy to find on jri-poland.org. generally on birth records after about 1875 you can see mother (sometimes with maiden name) and father of the baby's mother.

Seth, you said, "It's just a guess, but if I were a betting man, given that Schaje's first daughter was named Esther and there is an Abraham and Ester Dressler in Khorostkiv whp would be the right age to be Schaje's parents it is certainly a distinct possibility.", but you did not mention Schaje having a daughter by that name. Was that a mistake?

Yes see second para of my first response. Ester born 1863 Khorostkiv and Benjamin born 1865 Khorostkiv

"So Gittel is the daughter of Schaje and Lea Dressler.
She has a brother, Chaim born 11 feb 1861 in Tarnopol and married to Freude Page Imber in Tarnopol (civil marriage) 1899.
And it looks like she has a brother Benjamin and a sister Ester born in Khorostkiv 1863 and 1865 respectively."

It sounds lick Ester is the sister of Schaje's daughter in-law, not his daugher.

No, Gittel Niwes nee Dressler is the daughter of Schaje and Lea Dressler
Schaje and Lea Dressler have at least two other children- Ester Dressler and Chaim Dressler. Ester and Chaim are Gittel's siblings.

And Freude also had a sister called Ester, right?

I will check when jewishgen.org fixes their technical problems :-(

Any luck?

wow! sorry! completely forgot. i will look tonight

I see a lot of siblings for Freude Imber but I do not see an Ester Imber

The Esters I see in this entire story are Ester Dressler who is the daughter of Schaje Dressler and there is an Ester who might be Schaje's mother but it is not confirmed.

Is Benjamin Schaje's cild as well then?

Yes, the record shows Schaje and Lea Dressler as the parents of Benjamin.

http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/300/sygn.%20114/pages/PL_1_300_...

first entry, left side of the page.

Has anyone heard of a Gabriel and Libby? or Leiba? Rosen in Nezhin around 1870s. Their daughter Sarah Beila (Bella) married a Yonah Chitrik from Chernigov. Please and thanks. She had relatives in Philly and sent her sons there when her husband died. My grandfather was born Berl Chitrik.