Eleanor White (Smith) - Displaced Person

We should try and get in touch with Daniel Horning his sister Private User manages the other profile both of them lasted one day as users.

If not cut Unknown Profile loose.

Agreed - she's no Kirton.

Found out that I had to REPLACE Sir Richard White, second(?) son of Sir Thomas White II, because he had been obliterated in a Bad-Merge with the Somerset Whites. (A bit ironic - it usually goes the other way.) Well, there he is, and married back up with Ellen Kirton again (I was pretty sure she had married a White brother, but had to look up which one.)

Next question is whether Sir Richard and Ellen had any children - some highly suspect sources say there were two daughters, one of whom, supposedly named Anne, married Sir George Philpot.

Did some digging, and it looks as though Sir George was married at least twice. His second(?) wife, named Elizabeth, was buried at Stepney on July 11, 1616 (per Parish Register as reported at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=45447 ) That would be the one who was Lucy's mother, more than likely (Lucy married Lord Henry Paulet, a junior son of the 4th Marquess of Winchester).

I'm having to work very carefully, as too many sources have been polluted by Emma Siggins White and her acolytes.

Eleanor has been moved and properly connected, and her profile image replaced with a more appropriate one (the distinctive church at Sturton-le-Steeple).

As to Sir Richard White , he apparently married twice also, because when he died in 1613, he left an "infant son" who was the subject of a Chancery case discussed in the 1621 Parliament. (No further information, yet, on name of second wife, name of son, what became of said son, etc - but he most assuredly was NOT Robert White of Messing, Essex!)

Found a precise marriage date for Richard White (then just "esquire") and Ellen "Kyrte" of London: 26 July 1557, at South Warnborough, Hants.

Also of interest, from the South Warnborough parish registers:

George Phillpot, Gent. and Misstris Ann Wy-- [illegible] 12 Oct 1575

Sir John Hall, knight, and Lady Dorothie White 18 Nov 1613
(what is of interest here is that a Sir John Hall was a party to the Chancery suit, acting on behalf of the minor White boy - was he his stepfather. then?)

I was on the nose about Sir John Hall and Lady Dorothy:

Expand Hampshire; Upton Grey parsonage and tithes. [no ref.] c.1621

Folder icon [no title] DD/4P/72/38 c.1621

These documents are held at Nottinghamshire Archives

Contents: Memos. of proceedings in disputes between Sir John Hall and Thos. Fuller, clerk, re. possession of parsonage and tithes of Upton Grey. Hall had a lease in right of his wife Dorothy and stepson Thos. White which expired 1619. Queen's College, Oxford, then leased premises to John Seiwell who assigned them to Fuller. Proceedings in Court of Wards found for Fuller; Hall took Chancery proceedings and also used force; Fuller imprisoned.