Jon Postel linked into the Big Tree

Started by Harald Tveit Alvestrand on Saturday, September 13, 2014
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9/13/2014 at 9:21 PM

Success: I am related to Jon Postel: http://geni.com/w1rGL

First of my "Internnet Luminaries" to actually get a proper link.... many resources, some of them without provenance (MyHeritage) were utilized in the execution of this campaign.

Harald

9/13/2014 at 9:31 PM

Congrats Harald

I get 16th cousin x 2 & looks OK - I'd only vouch for the US side though

http://www.geni.com/path/Erica-Howton+is+related+to+Jon-Postel?from...

9/13/2014 at 9:56 PM

Erica Howton good that you like the US side - this was all US work, and some of it (pre 1880 or so) not much backed by real sources!
(the later generations linked pretty well to the census records, once I found the misspellings the census takers had used).

9/13/2014 at 10:58 PM

My name is a misspelling by census takers, you know. We just decided - why fight the government. (joking)

Seriously, I'll step through it in more detail. The "flow" seemed right, and I know the "iffy" spots on my side of the slope.

9/14/2014 at 12:03 AM

I added a note to the "brick wall" of Nehemiah Postel

9/14/2014 at 12:17 AM

I'm sorry to say the parents of Sarah Rebecca Postel Sarah Rebecca Purdue] are not making sense.

This site has her as the daughter of a John Purdue and posted a will of a Jonathan Purdue

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/o/s/Theresa-Ann-Postel...

I'll keep looking at what other researchers have.

9/14/2014 at 12:43 AM

Sigh. This was copied from a MyHeritage tree; you can find the match in the SmartCopy-added copy.

http://www.myheritage.no/research/collection-1/myheritage-familietr...

Given the "File number" component, it's probably originating in the old Ancestry Files (which are not that hot as a source).

But note - Sarah is not mentioned in the will itself, and it's for a Jonathan, not a John. The will might be misattributed.

9/14/2014 at 1:02 AM

Agree, that's why I'm looking further.

There's an interesting note on the second wife. She was the widow of a James Dick or Dicks of Ohio. Could possibly be of the Philip K. Dick tree, I know it's of Ohio, and not the most common name. We'll see ...

9/14/2014 at 5:37 AM

I disconnected the bad John Pardee and expanded the tree some.

I now have a fairly short path to Jon Postel and it should be all good; it goes through the illegitimate son of an Oxley woman, and the Oxley's married Woolards, and I'm a Woolard -- misspelled on census as Willard, so they stuck with it. :) :)

Jon Postel is your fifth great uncle's first cousin's wife's fourth great nephew.
http://www.geni.com/path/Erica-Howton+is+related+to+Jon-Postel?from...

The bad news is we lost the path to you, so will have to do some more expanding.

9/14/2014 at 6:09 AM

Thanks a lot for the help!

There are a lot more dots in his tree indicating MyHeritage matches that can be utilized - hopefully with better data than the erroneous John & Betsy merge!

I'm of two minds about the MyHeritage match - on one hand, it's obviously intended to be her; on the other hand, it IS wrong parents...

9/14/2014 at 6:21 AM

The siblings are good, just don't try & go "above" this John Purdue without real research.

Jon Postel tracks back to a Bacon around 900 now (my 37th great grandfather). He just seems a little too distant from Scots Kings to reach Norway, so the Scotch Irish lines expanded will reach. There's a German immigrant line from Nehemiah the brick wall's 2nd wife's 3rd husband. Lots of diversity in this tree already; not enough New England yet.

9/14/2014 at 9:10 AM

There's also something strange about Jensie's parents (Jon's maternal grandmother) - from the MyHeritage trees, it looks as if the parents' name (Morse) may have come from her mother's side, not her father's side - but the trees are confused. So far, I've built that part based on records, not MH trees, but no records found further back.

9/14/2014 at 3:48 PM

Could be a Morse marrying a Morse. I think I may have hit a "good source" little jackpot

http://books.google.com/books?id=Aj47AAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA318&ots...

A General History of the Burr Family: With a Genealogical Record from 1193 to 1902 (Google eBook)

Charles Burr Todd
author, 1902 - 600 pages
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Also includes descendants of the following: Benjamin Burr (d. 1681) was one of the original settlers of Hartford, Connecticut, in 1635. Descendants of his two sons lived in Connecticut, New York, New Hampshire, Illinois, and elsewhere -- Rev. Johnathan Burr (1604- 1641) was born at Redgrave, Suffolk County, England. He immigrated to America with his family in 1639 and settled at Charlestown, Massachusetts. Descendants lived in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York, Maine, Illinois, Iowa, and elsewhere -- Henry Burr (d. 1734), a Quaker, was living near Mount Holly, New Jersey, by 1691. Descendants lived in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and elsewhere.

9/14/2014 at 4:41 PM

There's a John Dick (son of James) born Antrim 1787 who immigrated to Indiana County, Pennsylvania, who is apparently the first Dick in America. The surname is never with an "s".

9/14/2014 at 10:56 PM

Erica Howton is this book available for download in the US? It's not in Norway, but Google Books is very country-specific because of all the lawsuits it's been through.....

9/15/2014 at 12:40 AM

I've gotten you your path to Jon Postel back, yay me!

http://www.geni.com/path/Jon-Postel+is+related+to+Harald-Alvestrand...

Harald Tveit Alvestrand is Jon Postel's 20th cousin 8 times removed!

9/15/2014 at 12:43 AM

Shouldn't be any issue with the Google book - A General History of the Burr Family: With a Genealogical Record from 1193 to 1902 (Google eBook)

author, 1902 - 600 pages

A 1902 date is well out of copyright.

I added a page to the "problem" generation you spotted and it turned out that the MH tree was correct there. "Upper" Burr's were more problematic from MH but I'm familiar enough with the Connecticut trees to have a clue, and FindAGrave is good in that area.

I wish I could say it was the famed Aaron Burr tree but it's not. Still, it takes Jon back to the Plantagenets, and thus, to you.

9/15/2014 at 1:18 AM

Hooray!

Unfortunately Google Books has taken the conservative stance that "out of copyright in the US" only means that they'll serve it freely to US customers :-(

Nice to be linked :-)

9/15/2014 at 2:15 AM

I think a couple more lines will come in also so he'll be nicely enmeshed in the tree.

I extracted some bio details on Dr Newton Morse and added to profile overview & will try to more from the book, it's quaintly written.

9/15/2014 at 2:20 AM

BTW I've been wondering if Postel derived from Postlethwaite, as in the late British actor. Pretty sure there was an immigrant family to Maryland of that name.

9/15/2014 at 4:26 PM

I have Jon Postel's New Amsterdam ancestry. A little work and there should be connections into Scandinavia from this tree, perhaps?

Adriaen Jans
Adriaen Gelijns is Jon Postel's 8th great grandfather

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