Frealaf Buri - Merge needed

Henn Sarv,

Can you please answer Alex's question.

Kevin

The problem is not so simple.

In legend, Búri was licked from a block of ice. No brothers. He was Odin's grandfather.

In later genealogies, there are different versions of Odin's ancestry. One version equates Frealaf with Búri (as you can see from his profile).

The fix should not be to merge Finn and Frealaf. The fix should be to find a different way of presenting the genealogies.

Who though is Finn?

The About section states Frealaf Buri = Finn and then quotes the Frealaf story.

For me (without background knowledge) the profile for Finn appears to be a dupe, obviously i'm wrong but how could i tell that from the info presented in the profiles?

Ironically (?) Finnish origin myth is not the same as this story, at least not as recorded in the Kalevala.

Alex, this is a very complicated area because there are disagreements in the sources. I probably spoke too cryptically because I wanted to shift the focus away from the idea that there is going to be a right answer and a wrong answer.

Búri is explicitly Finn in at least one source, and Búri's son Borr is explicitly Frealaf. In others Frealaf is in the position of Búri without it being explicit. And in one source Frealaf is in the position of Odin but is called Odin's grandfather.

You can see all of this by doing a text search on Frealaf's profile.

Someday when someone has time, maybe they'll write a nice little overview that explains the uncertainties and differences. However, I hope that we'll reconfigure the line a different way, so I don't see much point in investing that energy now.

Sorry: that should read "In others Frealaf is in the position of **Borr** without it being explicit."

Maybe we should have just very brief summary here, so everyone can follow.

In Norse mythology, Odin his brother Vili and Ve were the sons of Borr, who was the son of Búri, who was licked from the ice by a cow, Auðumbla. This origin myth must be very ancient. It has strong parallels in Hinduism. Jacob Grimm suggested that Odin in the same figure as Mannus, the ancestor of mankind and son of Tuisto mentioned by Tacitus, and also the same as Alanus mentioned by Nennius.

However it happened, when the Norse were being Christianized they had to give up Odin as a god but their kings based their right to rule based on descent from Odin, so they kept Odin as an ancestor. The new religion with its very modern science (as it seemed) made it obvious that Odin had to be descended from Adam and Eve.

So, the monks did their research and came up with a genealogy. They grabbed just about every byname for Odin and Thor and Frey they could find and piled them all up into a respectable looking genealogy. The early attempts were far too short, but they finally got the hang of it and came up with one that was long enough ;)

My brain hurts, but i think i understand.
Basically the same problem as with Arthur.

Exactly the same problem; exactly the same solution.

Frealaf Buri is a Fantasy person or Mythical god do believe he is person not really