Mary Helme (Eldred) - Mary Eldred, Who's her husband???

Started by Patricia Ann Scoggin on Wednesday, August 13, 2014
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I am contacting you about this profile: Mary Helme
Help!!! In looking for more info for Mary Eldred, I believe that her only marriage was to Rouse Helme.

I have found info that Mary was NOT married to Timothy Adams [Timothy Adams, Sr., "I" ] (his wife was Mary Corey) and I do not believe that she was married to Benoni Gardiner either. I found one site that indicated they were married in 1666/7. However she married Rouse Helme in 1773. Benoni Gardiner [ @Benoni Gardiner) didn't die until 1712. I don't believe they were divorced as that wasn't a common practice then. I did find a discussion about Benoni Gardiner & Mary @ http://genforum.genealogy.com/eldred/messages/255.html and http://www.pcez.com/~bigshoe/du/Keny/gardiner.html

This site also had some interesting info: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Mary_Eldred_(6)

Erica responded with:
The wife of Benoni Gardiner was Mary UNKNOWN.

This is not in doubt in my opinion - the Gardiner genealogy does not know her surname.

A new profile needs to be made for Mary, wife of Benoni Gardiner, made MP, and the Gardiner children moved over to her.

We need to make a new Mary COREY profile and move the Adams children to her. (Found her name in his Find A Grave memorial & put all of that in his profile.../ps)

I feel like saying "Will the real husband of Mary Eldred please stand up?"

Of course that would be Rouse Helme, Sr. & not the 2 other fellows.

To confirm - can we reference their marriage?

I also have a question about her DOD--1712 or 1729???
Pat

Mary Adams profile created - anyone, please feel free to "request management" and contribute.

The children were moved over to the correct parent pair & Timothy Adams, Sr., "I" disconnected from "not his wife."

Mary Gardiner profile created - anyone, please feel free to "request management" and contribute.

The children were moved over to the correct parent pair & Benoni Gardiner disconnected from "not his wife."

Patricia Ann Scoggin

Thank you so much for spotting this massive Geni smerge. Oye Oye Oye.

I have questions about Mary Eldred date and place of birth - it looks to me like the profile took on Mary Corey's attributes for it?

Can I leave that research / update in your capable hands?

I tend to find WeRelate, when they do a complete job on a family, is spot on with details. But I haven't looked yet at what they have for her ...

It appears FindAGrave may be incorrect about the wife of Timothy Adams. I can't find any support for a maiden name of Corey. Please provide an attribution if anyone else can.

She's currently named Mary (unknown).

Patricia Ann Scoggin

I think this clean up is pretty much completed although I know I didn't do anything more with the Mary Eldred profile.

Please have a look / see.

Erica Howton
Thanks ever so much Erica. When I got back online, I looked at Mary Eldred's profile. It looks great!!! I hope the other two families are able to get their lines cleaned up also. I will keep looking for more info on her. Too bad there are so many genealogies that have Mary Eldred as spouse which are incorrect!!! One part of me wants to notify them, but I don't know if it is possible or if they would even appreciate it!!! Oh, well... At least Geni's profile is as correct as it can be for her and those around her.

Again, thank you.
Pat

Just direct everyone to Geni. We can have errors but unlike other sites - we get them fixed.

It seems like this profile should be in an early Rhode Island project, but I am not sure that there is one that fits. Same thing with the Phillips family that I worked on yesterday.

http://www.geni.com/projects/Narragansett-Planters/15250

I invited Pat to collaborate. Hazard, Mary's daughter in law, was one of the "great proprietors" of this unique culture.

Erica Howton I accepted your request to join the above project and found 2 more reference that I added. I also added (at least I attempted to do so) Rouse Helme to the project. Will have to ck his profile to see if it shows him. I have a lot of other ancestors who settled in that area of RI, so will need to go thru & see who else needs to be added to the Narragansett Planters project. Thanks for thinking of me.
Hugs,
Pat

Erica Howton I also added Mary Eldred's father, Samuel to the Narragansett project.

Do we need more references/sources for the project or do we have enough??? (at least for now?)

I think we have enough for now but of course feel free to update & add to it. It's a fascinating time & place that developed a unique culture.

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