Kari Olsdotter Teigen (Steigen) - OK what's this record?

Have more kids here:

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/24410363/person/1517141968?ssrc=&amp...

1870 marriage date based on .... Nothing

And explain this one

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Teigen&am...;

Ida Teigen
Birth:  Nov. 14, 1871
Death:  Mar. 3, 1912

Not in the ancestry trees, but does make 7 living children

http://media.geni.com/p13/47/a8/33/98/5344483c4fd32ed9/mnsc_31-0491...

Minnesota State Census, 1885, Baxter, Lac Qui Parle county, Minnesota.

Is that a daughter Mary born in 1874?

Note: homestead land bought in 1883; was this in Baxter?

Minnesota, Homestead and Cash Entry Patents, Pre-1908
Name: Iver H Teigen
Land Office: Benson
Document Number: 1507
Total Acres: 160
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 20 Dec 1883
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: 24 Apr 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Land Description: 1 W½SE 5TH PM No 117 N 42 W 33; 2 E½SW 5TH PM No 117 N 42 W 33

All Minnesota Naturalization Records Index, 1854-1957 results for Teigen
(72 results)

I don't see this family.

So far, they arrived 1876 with 3? children, went to Minnesota, homesteaded, removed to North Dakota (when)

In your first message is it identical to this: Alfred Tiegen, 58 years 2 months , Death Certificate 01 Jul 1942 Spangle, Spokane, Washington https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3RT-8ZP ?

Yes, it's a match, thank you. I uploaded.

We have the children almost complete. Ida Teigen was Peter's wife. Mary (twin to Peter?) b 1874. In the 1885 census, perhaps married by the 1900? She was not deceased in 1900, as Kari said then that all 7 of her children were living.

Now if they arrived 1876 they should be in the 1880 US Federal Census. Perhaps not in Minnesota.

Here they are the 1895 Minnesota State Census

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11117-169462-60?cid=my...

I copied text version to event on timeline tab

http://www.geni.com/profile/6000000027377532182/events/600000002743...

Hans married Ida, sorry. He was born SEP 22 1876 in Minnesota, United States.

So immigration was before his birth, with two children, Peter & Mary born 1874. Two years old & pregnant, how long a trip?

1865 Census for Kari with parents Ole and Marith: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/bosted_land/bf01038056001914

Is the location right for meeting / marrying Iver? Where would the Steigen / Stegen name come from?

She's Pope County MN Carrie Olson

Carrie Teigen

I know, - I just found her baptism record, so I have corrected the birth date to 7 mar 1846, but need some help to read where the parents are living: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8911&idx_id=8...

Line 63?

Resolution looks easier at 60%

Marit Larsdotter again - is this Pope County Carrie, or North Dakota Kari?

The name of the farm where Kari is born March 7th 1846 is Norderhuusholen.

The birth placename for Ole H. Holen is spelled wrong. The valley (Norwegian: dalen) is spelled Gudbrandsdalen, and using such a large area as this isn't much use, since the valley is as long as the State of Minnesota is from it's border to Canada and south to the stateborder to Iowa.
Here is the birth and baptism of Ole H. Holen number 72 at the bottom, Ole Olsen Norderhusholen where Norderhusholen is the farmname and not his birthname. parents: Ole Thoresen and Marit Larsdatter.

Forgot the link to the baptism, number 72 at the bottom: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5709&idx_id=5...

Here is some information from the Lesja Bygdebok (Farmbook), book 2, pages 298: (in Norwegian: http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/311a7267755489c51925a77ee1bc33e3?index=1#301) (5-4)

Ola Toresen is born ca. 1794 in Tinn, Telemark, Norway. Married in his 2nd marriage 1838 to Marit Larsdatter from Nordistugu Tordhol, Lesja, Oppland, Norway (1817-1907). 9 children where Kari is number 4. Kari, 1846-1916, to America 1867, married to Iver Jørgensen from Nordre Teigen (Northern Teigen), they moved to Ben Wade, Pope Co.
All except one of her siblings moved to America, only her eldest brother stayed in Norway.

Thank you Remi, we should stay with the one discussion.

Let's pick up http://www.geni.com/discussions/138016?msg=958598 here, as I believe tthe question "Did Iver marry in Norway or in the US" is answered - in Norway.

To recap:

We are tracing the ancestry of Unknown Profile

Her mother is from Thailand, and her father is American, of (mostly?) Norwegian heritage.

His immigrant ancestors "had been" tracked to "the Pope County Teigens"
Carrie Teigen & Iver Jørgensen Teigen

However, that is incorrect.

Her immigrant pair is actually

Kari Olsdatter Teigen &
Iver Hansen Teigen

Their 1st 2 children were born in 1874 and they immigrated in 1876.

So that's the area we are working on.

Another we need, if we can find, is the family of

Ida Helmin Teigen

I'm confused between the Teigen middle names.

We have the Iver A. Teigen (the "wrong Teigen") and Iver H. Teigen (the "right Teigen"), and we have the US marriage record at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17872-94957-91?cc=1803974 showing Iver J. Teigen.

Can we safely assume that Iver J. Teigen is the same as Iver A. with the J. meaning "Jørgensen"?

I've cross-linked Iver A. and Iver H. in the "about me".

"Can we safely assume that Iver J. Teigen is the same as Iver A. with the J. meaning "Jørgensen"?"

That is what I believe.

Some confusion might be in "assuming" an American middle name and / or initial is the same as the Norwegian patronymic.

The "A." is on census reports and in the Pope county biography:
http://genealogytrails.com/minn/pope/bios_t.htm

Could be entirely meaningless. :)

In the event, "our" Iver Teigen evidently used the middle initial H. as shown on his tombstone

http://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000027377532189?album_type=photo...

But what it stands for, "if anything," is yet to be revealed.

Now here's an interesting clue, perhaps. I was looking to see if I could find what became of Iver H Teigen & Kari Stegen's oldest daughter, Mary (Marie?), born 1874 in Norway, emigrated to America 1876 with her parents & brother, and counted on the 1885 territorial census for Lac Qui Parle county, Minnesota.

This is NOT her but there "is" another Teigen family in Lac Qui Parle revealed:

From http://genealogytrails.com/minn/chippewa/bios_k.htm

Source: History of Chippewa and Lac Qui Parle Counties Minnesota, L. R. Mayer and O. G. Dale, Volume II, Illustrated; B. F. Bowen & Co. Inc. (1916) transcribed by Genealogy Trails Transcription Team – Vicki Bryan

Biography for Ole P. Klefstad

The subject of this sketch was born in Norway on January 6, 1864, and came with his mother, Anne Klefstad, to America when he was only seven years old. They found their way to Benson, Minnesota, traveling to that place by river and rail, and from there they moved on down to Chippewa County by ox team, locating there in 1871, thus becoming counted among the pioneers of this region. Mrs. Klefstad filed a claim to eighty acres of government land, in Tunsberg Township, Chippewa County, but did not prove it up. She is now living in Tunsberg Township, aged about seventy-one years. ....

... In 1894 Ole P. Klefstad was married to Anna Teigen, who was born in Tunsberg Township, Chippewa County, January 13, 1876, a daughter of Ole Teigen, a pioneer of that township. To this union six children have. been born, ....

Note: The word "Teigen" is probably derived from the word "Teig", which means "piece of land"recording in Norwegian. Like the name I was born with (Tveit), there are probably hundreds of farms in Norway named "Teigen". (Arkivverket gives 903 hits, but that is across multiple censuses).

We should not be surprised that there are many unrelated families using that name that emigrated to the US.

Of course. And it is possible emigrating siblings ended up with different surnames.

I am looking geographically; this county in Minnesota is (still) remote & very small in population, unlike Pope. You are not as likely to have gone there to homestead without reason, and family in the area would be a very good reason. So to me, a brother Ole Teigen born about 1840 is worth looking into?

The Ole Teigen family in the 1880 census for Tungsen, Chippewa county, Minnesota is here. I do not see any names that match the Iver Teigen family.

http://usgwcensus.org/cenfiles/mn/chippewa/1880/index/index02.txt