Mary "Hester" Eggleston (Williams) - Help with her marriages and names?

Timothy Cannell Davis, that's a beautiful coat of arms you added to Hester's profile this morning! Do you happen to have handy the proof that she had the right to use it? I'd love to add that to her profile as we're straightening out the tangles in this family group over the next few days! Thanks for any help you can give.

It's only a state crest, indicating she was born and died in CT. It helps me remember I've visited. I'm not a manager so can't address your other information: maiden name not matching parents being the most critical.
Tim

The family group of Bygod Eggleston is going to undergo a thorough review and revision over the next few days. I am tagging in the appropriate profiles so that all of this Discussion will be available to future researchers.

Bygod Eggleston's 1st wife
Mary Aylett
Benjamin Eggleston
James Eggleston
Mary Sanderson
James Eggleston, of Windsor
John Eggleston
Samuel Eggleston
Unknown Profile
Thomas Eggleston
Mary Denslow
Sarah Pettibone
Rebecca Eggleston
Abigail Osborn
Unknown Profile

[Timothy Cannell Davis, I'll be glad to add you as a manager if you'd like to help!) /lol]

Genealogies of Ancient Windsor: https://openlibrary.org/books/OL14012346M/The_history_and_genealogi... pages 198-199 have a good accounting of the family. Don't get too excited about son James Eggleston, of Windsor marrying Esther WILLIAMS, as that's been disproven by more recent researchers! ;-)

Info about Begat's sons James and Thomas:

http://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000026712813754

I'll note discrepancies / questions as I work "around."

http://www.thekelseykindred.org/www/ has

"Hester Kelsey .... She married second, James Eno Sr.  They had 1 child"

However F/G http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=15174002 which seems to have well understood the authoritative Doug Richardson study, has

"James Eno had only three known children, all by first wife Anna."

Yeah, she was 55 when she married Eno, so I'm thinking kids were probably not part of the bargain!

Can you annotate her profile to make it clear? Because otherwise I think Kelsey Kindred good on that family.

You have to have a family history for each of the lines here ...

I just gave Kelsey Kindred a quick look but didn't see anything to cause me to scream at the idea of using them as a map. ;-)

Yeah, will do her profile next...

K, give Hester Williams a look to see if I did things they way you had in mind... she needs a great deal of further work on sourcing/citations, but it's getting better!

Arg. You need Ben Angel for the next resolve.

"BIOGRAPHY: She was the second wife of James Eno and was perhaps the daughter, more probably the widow of Richard Bidwell. This Anna was the mother of all the Eno Children.dl (jholcomb)"

Hannah Bidwell

I have no idea and I'm not making this decision. It's just very creepy as is.

Overview looks good to me, very clear & simple. I'd move on and come back to it when the rest of the mess is better.

K, that wraps James Eggleston/Hester Kesley for now. We'll circle back to the Hannah Eno part of it later, ewwww.

Will move on to next set of Bygod's kids.

Tagging these profiles for future reference:
James Eno
John Williams, of Windsor

Here's the next problem. You're going to love this one: Mary Sanderson

Here's what I wrote about her last year based on everything I found then:
Mary Eggleston (baptised 19 January 1613/4 St. Margaret's, Norwich, Norfolk - 1684 Massachusetts) married Edward Saunderson 15 October 1645 Watertown, Suffolk, Massachusetts. They had two children. Edward Saunderson sold his house and land in Watertown, Massachusetts to William Shattack. Mary and Edward probably moved to Cambridge, Massachusetts soon after that. Records of their deaths have not been found, and they may have returned to England.

However, in the middle of all yesterday's poking around, I found something saying that Bygod's daughter Mary died in England before he emigrated and that all of the old histories were mistaken in listing her as growing up to marry Sanderson/Saunderson! They think it was a different woman, unrelated to Eggleston.

Of course, I've now forgotten where I saw that. <hangs head in shame>

Check your browsing history? :)

Useful resource

http://books.google.com/books?id=0woWAAAAYAAJ&amp;dq=Samuel+phelps+...

Births, Marriages, and Deaths Returned from Hartford, Windsor, and Fairfield, and Entered in the Early Land Records of the Colony of Connecticut: Volumes I and II of Land Records and No. D of Colonial Deeds (Google eBook)

Edwin Stanley Welles
Case, Lockwood & Brainard Company, 1898 - Fairfield (Conn.) - 73 pages

The Williams & Phelps and unholy Griswolds from the planet of "no records" are on my plate. Been there before, they're even more messed up now.

I say - nuke them all. Just kidding!

I am pleased to learn that Samuel Phelps only married 2 of step sisters & not 3, as it turns put that Abigail Griswold is not the same person as her sister Abiel Phelps

However this Elizabeth Phelps drifted in from Planet Claire and is going back there.

Just so its clear what we're up against - a MH tree has Samuel Phelps married to 5 women.

Payne Joyce has 2:

http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/report/rr04/rr04_170.html

Good bye, Elizabeth ....

Didn't have that resource before, awesome, thanks!

Checking history means wading through hundreds of pages of my son's gamer and Netflix crap, lol! Was trying to avoid that as it just pisses me off but... okay, fine! ;-)

Yes, I remember the last Unholy Alliance of Williams and Phelps... so glad you were able to nuke Elizabeth, wahoo! At least we have had any Allens show up yet.

Off to find that source.

Here's a guy who seems to be doing excellent research on Sandersons (supposed husband of Mary Eggleston who may or may not have died in childhood): http://www.ksanderson.com/edward_sanderson_of_watertown_ma.html

However, he doesn't seem to question that Sanderson and Eggleson married...

Here's some discussion of the whole mess but no firm conclusion based on anything that convinces me, although of course YMMV. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/i/n/Deb-Lindsley/WEBSI...

Well this Phelps may not have been the wife of Capt. John Alden, Jr. according to http://www.massmayflower.org/publications/md/md47/MD47-001-008.pdf

This one matters to me - 8th great uncle's aunt

Timothy Cannell Davis do you have any knowledge on this Mayflower line?

Oy vay. Here's the whole thing - and I'm really glad that Sanderson did not apparently marry into Eggleston's family as I'm feeling attached to them now. Ugh.

http://www.jeaniesgenealogy.com/2012/12/edward-sanderson-of-waterto...

If Robert Anderson of The Great Migration says that the Mary Egellston who married Sanderson/Saunderson was not a daughter of Bygod, then by God I believe him. ;-)

Here's the discussion I saw yesterday:

http://nhgenealogist.com/2/category/sanderson/1.html

Now I believe I've earned my keep for the day and am going to be bed.

Mary, daughter of Bygod Eggleston and Mary Talcott, is done, except for a few changes that need to be made by a curator to locked fields.

Bygod Eggleston's 1st wife first wife of Bygod, had to have died prior to his second marriage c.1637 Windsor, Hartford, Connecticut. It is assumed by Anderson, et al, that she died prior to his c1630 emigration, as she did not accompany him.

Currently her profile appears to have the death vitals for the second wife. It would be great if the following changes could be made by a curator to the locked fields:

Date of Death: "before 1630"
Place of Death: "England" (please note that the UK did not exist until the next century, so it would be great if the Country field could actually say "England")

I'm annotating her overview now to reflect all of the above. Thanks, as always, for the assistance.

Whoops. Way to blow the whole thing out of the water. http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Bygod_Eggleston_%282%29

Apparently, the names of Bygod's wives - both of them - are unknown? at least according to Anderson, He Who Must Be Given Credence... I give up.

From that site: "Genevieve Tylee Kiepura has a very detailed discussion of Bigod Eggleston in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, vol. 57, no 4, December 1969. It discusses whether he was a passenger on the MARY AND JOHN, when Mary died, whether James and Samuel were twins, and whether Bigod was descended from Sir Ralph Bigod. In each of these cases she determined that there was no evidence to support the claims."

Further: "Great Migration gives two wives, names unknown, and gives parents as James Eggleston and Margaret Harker. From Eggleston-L: "I have seen records that claim his wife was Mary Talcott, Sarah Talcott or Mary Wall. From wills of John Talcott, Ann (Skinner) Talcott Wall, Moses Wall, and Ann's parents, William Skinner and Margery Skinner show that daughters Mary, Ann and Grace Talcott had apparently died before 1616; that Sarah Talcott had m. (William) Wadsworth & Mary Wall had m. (Martin) Aylett by 1637. This would indicate that Bigod could not have married Mary Talcott nor Sarah Talcott as his 1st wife not Mary Wall or Sarah Talcott as his 2nd wife. His oldest son James was b. 1612, his youngest child b. in England b. abt.1629 and he was in America by 1630." (Marie Taylor mtaylor -at- vvm.com)"

And: "Probably no early colonist has had more erroneous conjectures made about him than Bygod Eggleston. This is due to the total absence of records relating to his mother and his wives. We now have proof that his mother was not Juliana Harker, as has been widely accepted in the past."