Harav Moshe Mordechai Halevi Margaliyos - Wife of Moshe Mordechai/Mother of Scheindel

Started by Seth Morgulas (Geni Curator) on Saturday, April 5, 2014
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I am not sure I understand the comment in the about section that reads:
"Her mother was Yutta Margulias (cousin of sorts) - daughter of Rabbi Yaakov Margulias Chief Judge of Eisenstadt. "
The wife of Moshe Mordechai and hence (I assume) the mother of Scheindel is listed not as Yutta but as Mrs. Moshe Margaliyot and he father is not show as Yaakov Margulias

Am I misreading this?

hi,
i haven't found, yet the comment you mention, however i idid come across
an additional daughter to the wife of menachem stengen, scheindel. the name listed is again scheindel and have written to hilary that it is far from likely that a person would give his wife's name to his daughter (ashkenazim).
Sefardim do do that.
yours,
shlomo

Hi Shlomo,
It is in the Overview section for Harav Moshe Mordechai just go to his profile and you will see it right there, it says:

"Chief Judge of Parmishla

See Moshe Flam's full assessment of family with all sources linked from here: http://pshat-pashute.blogspot.com/2010/10/blog-post.html

Sheindel Shtengen Margulios was the first wife of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Shtengen. His children decided to call the family with her family name after the pogrom in Permisla (Premishlan, today radio active from the Chernobyl "accident")

Her father was Rabbi Shmuel Margulias (the man who gave the Heter Chema for young kids - to eat butter)"

forgot to copy the whole thing, the rest says:

Her mother was Yutta Margulias (cousin of sorts) - daughter of Rabbi Yaakov Margulias Chief Judge of Eisenstadt.

נפטר י כסלו שע"ז -------------------- R Moishe Mordechai Marguliois rosh yeshiva of krakow -------------------- Moshe Mordechai Margolius of Poznan

Shlomo, also on the Ashkenazi vs. Sephardi question in

Hi Shlomo Flam I saw a translation of http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19721&st=&......

(Joseph Zadek Cohen's book) That suggests that the Schtengen family left Spain around 1492 during the expulsion. Does that seem right? Any ideas what their family name might have been in Spain as Schtengen does not seem like something they would have used in Spain unless they had come to Spain from somewhere else more recently.

I know this issue is controversial and some believe that Cohen got it wrong; however, do we know for certain that the Schtengens were always Ashkenazic and not Sephardic who assimilated into the Ashkenazic society? Probably a stretch . . .

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