Jan Johann Lucken - Who is Jan's Wife

Maria Lucken

Tagged Maria to help with jumping between profiles.

I found this record and looking the the time line of the alleged mother will reveal that this Mary does not fit from the birth location.
Source: http://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-10095/everton-pedigre...
I will upload the images to the husband.
This pedigree states that Mary was born Tyson.

You all have a tough one!

I do see this comment in the profile notes:

"A Rheydt power of attorney in 1683 says Merken Lucken
is daughter of married couple Wilhelm Lucken and Adelheid, and
her name appears in the Quaker wedding as Merken Willems. So she
definitely was not the daughter of Theiss Doors! Nieboth also
mentions that Wilhelm was related on his motgher's side to the
Ther Mehr family."

I have my doubts she is a Doors. Please look at her alleged mother's timeline:
Neesgen op den Graeff
Most of the children are born in Kaldenkirken, Nordhein., Westfalen, Germany
wheras Mary is born in: Jülich, Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Seems other sites like http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Theissen-1 confirms this relationship.

You want to try and inspect the source cited

↑ "The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters of Kaldenkirchen, Germany and Germantown, Pennsylvania, the first four generations", Jean M. White, Editor; Publisher The Castor Association of America; page 51

https://books.google.com/books?id=PU9GAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwith...
This book is interesting. However I have a hard time reading the details, and I am told the closest librarry that has this is in the US. I live in Norway.

Same issue here - it's a snippet view. Looks like the book is out of print also so can't be purchased.

The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters of Kaldenkirchen can be purchased from the Castor Association of America for $30 US. Order from the treasurer, Donald R. Castor 1010 Oakshade Avenue, Kannapolis North Carolina (NC) 28083-5156.

Thank you Barbara Jean Andrews,
However I will rest my case for now and will not pursue this matter further for now. Maybe someone already has access to this book and might clear this out. Searching in this book, I do find mentioned the Doors family too. Hard to tell from the snippet views how the big picture is.

Source:
Translation by John Brockie Lukens, completed on April 13, 1978, of a magazine article found for him in Krefeld, Lower Rhine-Westphalia, West Germany, in June 1977 by Helma Glaser,a retired schoolteacher and author of at least two books about the history of Krefeld.
(This copy of the document in question was typed from a copy given by JBLukens to his sister, Anne Lukens Edgar, by Nancy Brockie Edgar Liskey in July of 2011.)

(Translator’s note: “Die Heimat” means the homeland. Numbered footnotes have been included untranslated since they are source references to other German writings and could only be used by persons able to read German)

From DIE HEIMAT (Krefeld) 24, 1953
By Wilhelm Niepoth

THE ANCESTRY OF THE 13 EMIGRANTS FROM KREFELD TO PENNSYLVANIA IN THE LIGHT OF LOWER RHINE SOURCES.

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"Johann Lucken was married to Merken Gastes. The name Gastes does not appear among the Mennonites. (Translator’s note: American writings state that Jan (Johann) Lucken’s wife was Maria Theissen, a sister of Reiner Theissen. I have seen no indication that Jan was married more than once,. Also, in Section 3 below we note that this author does mention any Maria or Merken among the sisters of Reiner Theissen.) "

This article suggests that the American writings (I have read several) state that his wife was Maria Thiesen but their translation of documents lists the sisters of Reiner Thiesen and there is no Maria listed. The article lists Merken Gastes as Johann Lucken's wife but offers no proof.

My conclusion is that it is a mystery that we won't solve since the Mennonite Genealogists don't have any proof that it is Gastes but we shouldn't assume that the common belief that it was Maria Thiesen sister of Reiner is true.

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I tend to believe Mary's maiden name was Tyson (Ger. Theissen) because of two indicators: (1.) Jan sailed to the Colonies with "Reynier Tyson", according to Howard Jenkins' "Genealogical Sketch of the Descendants of Samuel Spencer of Philadelphia"; (2.) At least three of Jan and Mary's sons' middle names were Tyson, i.e. Peter Tyson Lucken, Abraham Tyson Lucken, and Joseph Tyson Lucken.

It is possible that Jan was married to Merken Gastes before he sailed, but simply began a whole new life in a whole new country. Another instance of that is mentioned in the ABOUT here in Mary's profile, so things like that did happen.

(Another note of interest is that I see Renier Theissen-Dorhs in other sites, but Howard Jenkins, mentioned above. does not write Dorhs, only Tyson.)