Lt. Samuel Gardiner - Date of Birth

For one thing he's not a child of Herodias Long, I don't think

Herodias (Long) (Hicks) (Gardner) Porter

The Gardiners book in linked in her profile - ill check it later if someone doesn't get there before me

http://archive.org/stream/gardinersofnarra00robi#page/2/mode/1up

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I'm correcting myself. Lt. Samuel seems to have been the youngest child of Herodias Long & George Gardiner. That puts his birth date after 1656 & before (need to look up the divorce )

More controversy - Jo Ann Butler (Herodias biographer) has

1657-58 Rebecca, Herodias and George Gardner's final child was born

http://www.rebelpuritan.com/More.html

Which would make Samuel a son by George's 3rd wife, Lydia Ballou, & born more in the "after 1660" time frame.

Even more fun - I think he may not, in fact, have been a son of George Gardiner at all. He's not listed as one in John Osborne Austin. Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, 1887

http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person_talk:Samuel_Gardiner_%283%29

" in his article on George Gardiner of Newport, R.I. (TAG 21:199) does not include Samuel in the list of George's children (by either Herodias Long or Lydia Ballou). This does not mean that he wasn't, but that it is worth checking. His estimated birth year of 1662 is before George married Lydia Ballou"

So -

- Torrey has DOB 1662
- He is not a son of Herodias Long. Not only is he born too late to have been, he had no property share & is not in any of those transactions with John Porter (her 5 sons made out like bandits)
- He's born before the separation of Herodias & George & before the 1665 marriage of George & Lydia Ballou

WeRelate has Lt Samuel as a son of Lydia & George, 1662 birth, with the comment.