William Gardiner - William's wife, according to www.kateemersonhistoricals.com

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8/23/2013 at 5:28 AM

ELLEN, ELYN, or HELEN TUDOR (c.1459-1502+)

Ellen Tudor was the illegitimate daughter of Jasper Tudor, duke of Bedford (c.1431-December 21, 1495) and a woman possibly named Mevanvy. She married William Gardiner (c.1450-1485), a skinner, according to the Oxford DNB. Other sources call him a cloth merchant, still others a grocer, and some say he hired out as a mercenary and was one of the men who killed Richard III on the battlefield at Bosworth in 1485. These same sources say he was afterward knighted on the battlefield by Henry VII, Jasper Tudor’s nephew, and after that married Jasper’s illegitimate daughter. This makes a good story, but is largely untrue. Neither is it true that William and Ellen were the parents of Stephen Gardiner, Bishop of Winchester (d.1555), or Richard (1486-1546), William (1488-1549) or Alice (d.1588) Gardiner. William and Ellen were married well before the Battle of Bosworth, which took place in the same year William died (the date of his will is September 25). Their only son was Thomas (c.1479-1536), Pryor of Tynemouth. They had four daughters: Philippa, Margaret, Beatrice, and Anne, all of whom were still living in January 1487/8. Before 1493, Ellen married another London skinner, William Sybson or Sibson (d.1501+).

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8/23/2013 at 10:19 AM

@William Gardiner Eilliam Gardiner is my 4th cousin 14 times removed Judy Rice

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8/23/2013 at 10:25 AM

William Gardiner is your third cousin 18 times removed.

8/23/2013 at 10:29 AM

Once again Judy - 4X14 for William Gardiner. Hi Sis!

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