How to search based on death location

Started by Marsha Gail Veazey on Monday, August 19, 2013
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8/19/2013 at 11:43 AM

I've tried several times over the years to search for all the Veazeys who died in Granville, NC, for instance, but I always get back no results. Has anyone been able to capture this information?

8/19/2013 at 11:57 AM

What county is Granville in?

8/19/2013 at 12:05 PM

Granville IS the county. I want to search and find a list of all Veazeys who died in Granville Co, NC. Then I want a list of all Veazeys who died in Edgecombe Co, NC, etc. Have you been able to do this type of search?

8/19/2013 at 12:48 PM

To to Begin New Search..

Enter only last name Veazey

No dates

State: North Carolina

County: Granville

You will get a list of all Veazey's in that county.

8/19/2013 at 12:48 PM

Do it all the time

8/19/2013 at 5:43 PM

But I can only pick country. Under country it says 'location' but doesn't say state. There is also no place on my screen to put county. You're not talking about findagrave, are you? I do that there but I can't seem to get it to work here on geni.

8/19/2013 at 6:43 PM

I work ON FInd a grave....not thru Geni.

I have three or four different sites open at once...and pull from 1 to place on the other...

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=&GSm...

8/19/2013 at 9:51 PM

Marsha Gail Veazey
It's been my experience that trying to filter search results on Geni by location does not work.
I've not tried for a few months and was trying birthplaces but even when i knew there were profiles from a place the search would not return any results.

Private User
8/20/2013 at 2:15 AM

Alex Moes

Same experience, my dear friend, and that's why I posted also a comment about this question elsewhere:
* http://www.geni.com/discussions/127054

Maybe it would be wiser for geni to ask users to start to put in the country first with a scrolling screen and then, on a more national, regional, local, familiar basis ask for other ---sometime with totally different spelling as the big google-business wants us to speak--- suggestion where to look in -digital or real- archives....

8/20/2013 at 3:56 AM

OK...Then you are asking if there is a way, on Geni, to search for people (not graves) by burial location....

I agree with Alex and -jMVu-, I have tried also to search our files according to burial location....or even location....and can't.

8/20/2013 at 5:05 AM

Thanks. I'm glad it's not just me doing something wrong. I'll go to Geni Help and see if I can find it raised there as an issue. Thanks, again.

8/20/2013 at 6:40 AM

No problem....it most definitely is NOT you....

Private User
8/20/2013 at 7:32 AM

Marsha Gail Veazey

... and please tell ALL average USERS how we can support your CURATORIAL request for this -in ouw regions very- important aspect of researching possiblities via de GENI-software. Thanks in advance, Jeannette.

8/20/2013 at 7:56 AM

Ditto..

8/20/2013 at 8:59 AM

The only thing I can think of that might get more attention to this issue is if everyone who wants this feature to work, puts in a help ticket. Believe me, being a curator holds no special influence with TPTB (the powers that be). I strenuously argued for them to put what they thought was a cosmetic feature back into the discussion template but they wouldn't do it - even for a lifetime member who worked her butt off for this site. Harumphf! LOL! Tell everyone you know to put in a request to fix this feature and it might happen. Good luck to all of us!

Private User
8/20/2013 at 11:52 AM

tell us how to do so ! We can change TPTB in OITB - our influence to be, don't you think?

8/20/2013 at 4:38 PM

Sadly, as "ordinary" users we can't even raise Help tickets, that's a PRO feature.

8/21/2013 at 1:10 AM

See if you can raise the issue in the Help area - listed at the bottom of every screen.

8/21/2013 at 1:32 PM

Got a response already from Charles - he's always very quick to respond. Thanks, Charles, if you're out there! :)

Charles Edmonds, Aug 21 01:31 pm (PDT):
Hi Marsha

That is a know bug and it is on our to do list. I just can't tell you exactly when the engineers are going to get to it.

Best Regards

Charles
The Geni SupportTeam

FAQ,CommunityHelp,FeatureRequests&BugReports-http://help.geni.com

Marsha Gail (Kamish) Veazey, Aug 20 05:09 am (PDT):
I would like to use the location field in the search engine but I have found that it doesn't work. Several other PRO/Curator friends have also tried and it doesn't work for them, either. It doesn't work in the birth section or the death section. I've even tried it in the location section (assuming it means current location?) but it still doesn't work. Using any of the location fields by themselves or with a surname doesn't return any results. I know for sure that 90% of my profiles have a birth or death location, if not both, so I know the data is there. Can you please work on this? It's a very valuable part of the search engine. Thanks very much!

8/21/2013 at 1:49 PM

Imagine how nice it would be to have the search engine where you could put in a birth place and date range and get all the settlers, families for that time period??

8/22/2013 at 8:10 AM

That would be awesome. Hope their fix includes that type of criteria selection. We'll just have to wait and see - something I'm not good at but will try! LOL!

8/22/2013 at 8:15 AM

As usual, I get ahead of progress.....that WOULD be awesome....but we will settle for small steps first....and your burial location scenario would be a nice enhancement to start with.

8/22/2013 at 5:22 PM

The frustrating thing is that what is being discussed here are not "enhancements" all the functions are being offered right now (and have been for years) but they simply don't work.

I wonder how many customers Geni has lost because they thought there were no results for a search they did when the reality was that searches filtered by location simply don't work (i've seen a lot of strange results when filtering by year also!)

8/22/2013 at 5:50 PM

That is a programming thing....

Altho the fields are there, the programmers didnt factor in 'sort' by more than a certain number of 'required' fields..( I didn't say that very well).

I worked in a bank that changed their computer system...I was in central information at the time.....after the conversion, I noticed that every single named account was incorrectly printing....bu the exact number of characters that were in the secondary name field....in other workds, every thing was advancing UP in the queue because the system did not recognize that 'nothing' in the secondary name field was a valid consideration....they did something and it got fixed..

My point is, they are not SEEING something in the program that would allow a SORT by looking at ONLY x or y...(as in location and surname; or burial and surname, etc.

Does that make sense?.

8/22/2013 at 6:09 PM

i think i followed the first two paragraphs but "My point..." lost me.
I guess "I missed your point", so to speak:)

Private User
8/22/2013 at 9:43 PM

I really plee for nice AND EASY wth less fault input of a country. Then teh next step COULD be a state, provinie and thaen the customer him/her sefl should be responsible for the rest of so many details in some many different era in so many different areae....

Private User
8/22/2013 at 9:44 PM

sorry, my fingers aren't awak yet, it early here in HOLLAND, EUROPE, NOORD-BRABANT, DE MEIERIJ, 's-HERTOGENBOSCH, PAYS-BAS, The NEW, oh sorry OLD WORLD, not the first, but to my opinion -the best... :-)

Private User
8/23/2013 at 12:02 AM

It should in theory be possible to use Google to search for profiles using location only since Geni are following an international standard for tagging such, but I have never spent time on how to set up such a search.

If you view the source for a logged-out view of a public profile (which is what Google have access to), you will see them.

8/23/2013 at 2:55 AM

My point was not well-stated....

I think that the 'search' perameters do not recognize 'nothing' in a field as a valid entry....so unless you enter (i.e.) first name and surname, and date.....it does not filter...

That the first grouping of info items are 'primary' indicators.....and the lower grouping are 'secondary' indicators.

Entering ONLY last name, date range, and location....is NOT computing (because the program as it now stands is looking for something in the first name slot)...

It is not looking at 'location' as a primary locator.....only a secondary locator...

Hope that is a bit clearer....

Since I am not a programmer or anything remotely like it, I have to compare search perameters recognized to other web sites where there is a little red check-mark indicating fields that HAVE to be completed to gain feedback.....other fiedls available do NOT have the 'red' flag.....Geni's search doesn't have those red flags to tell which are 'required' for a positive response...and which are secondary to the request.

It is my belief that what we need (to find a burial location by surname and location) is for a method to reconfigure which fields are being asked to be 'primary' fields to use for that desired purpose.

Private User
8/23/2013 at 3:14 AM

It is clear enough, - Geni search does not support the search combination you asked for and I said that Google can probably do that for you, and even better because it in some cases handles spelling variations.

Yes, you need to do some digging on how to define that search request.,,,

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