Looking for Fred A. Plummer

Started by Douglas Steven Plummer on Thursday, April 4, 2013
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4/4/2013 at 9:16 AM

Fred A. Plummer is my great grandfather. We think he was born 21 August 1878 somewhere in Indiana. He married Lottie F. Fritz in Howard Co, Indiana in late 1899. He and Lottie had two boys, Frederick Dale and Dwaine E.

1900 Census shows him married to Lottie.

We just found out that in 1915 they divorced in the same county. After that event, we can't find hide nor hair of him.

I did find a WW1 draft card for a Fred A. Plummer who lived in Kalamazoo, Mi.

Private User
10/26/2013 at 11:48 AM

1910 Census has them in South Bend Ward 7, St Joseph, Indiana, United States, with children:

* Household Gender Age Birthplace
* Head Frederick Plummer M 31 Indiana
* Wife Lottie Plummer F 31 Indiana
* Son Frederick Plummer M 1 Indiana
* Son Dwaine Plummer M 0 Indiana

Here's Fred A. Plummer getting remarried in 1915:

marriage: 25 December 1915 Bay City, Bay, Michigan

* father: William ...
* mother: ...an E Chambers
* spouse: Sarah L. Dorland [middle name "Lucille" per WWI draft card]
* other: Alonzo W., Della E Suttle

* Name Fred A Plummer
* Race (Original)
* Age (Expanded) 37 years
* Birth Year 1878
* Birthplace Spencer Ind
* Spouse's Name Sarah L. Dorland
* Spouse's Race (Original)
* Spouse's Age (Expanded) 39 years
* Spouse's Birth Year 1876
* Spouse's Birthplace Houstonville Ky.
* Event Date 25 Dec 1915
* Event Place Bay City, Bay, Michigan
* Father's Name William [Plummer]
* Mother's Name ...an E Chambers
* Spouse's Father's Name Alonzo W.
* Spouse's Mother's Name Della E Suttle
* Marital Status
* Previous Wife's Name
* Spouse's Marital Status
* Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
* GS Film number 2342709
* Frame Number
* Digital Folder Number 4209290
* Reference ID v 1 p 143 rn 17116

Fred A. Plummer's son Frederick getting married in DeKalb, IN in 1943:

* spouse: Lottie A Fritz
* child: Fredrick D Plummer
* other: Ruth D Olwin, Hary A Olwin, Plunia Henschen
* Name Fredrick D Plummer
* Event Type Marriage
* Event Date 22 Jul 1943
* Event Place , Dekalb, Indiana
* Alternate Event Place
* Registration Place , Dekalb, Indiana, United States
* Marriage License Date 22 Jul 1943
* Residence Place Fort Wayne, , Indiana
* Gender Male
* Age (Estimated) 35
* Number of Previous Marriages 1
* Race (Original) White
* Birth Date 30 Jun 1908
* Birthplace Frankford, , Indiana
* Father's Name Fred A Plummer
* Mother's Name Lottie A Fritz
* Spouse's Name Ruth D Olwin
* Spouse's Residence Place Fort Wayne, , Indiana
* Spouse's Gender Female
* Spouse's Age (Estimated) 25
* Spouse's Previous Marriage Number
* Spouse's Race (Original) White
* Spouse's Birth Date 09 Mar 1918
* Spouse's Birthplace Payne, , Ohio
* Spouse's Father's Name Hary A Olwin
* Spouse's Mother's Name Plunia Henschen
* Informant's Name
* Officiator's Name Andrew M Lowry
* Page 516
* Record Number
* Reference ID
* GS Film number 001863339
* Digital Folder Number 004476722
* Number of Images 1

This seems to have been a second marriage - here's the first, under the name "Dale Plummer" (probably his middle name):

* spouse: Lottie Fr*
* child: Dale Plummer
* other: Helen Finfrock, Frank Finfrock, Evelyn Dains
* Name Dale Plummer
* Event Type Marriage
* Event Date 23 Dec 1932
* Event Place , Allen, Indiana
* Alternate Event Place
* Registration Place , Allen, Indiana, United States
* Marriage License Date 05 Nov 1932
* Residence Place Indianapolis, , Indiana
* Gender Male
* Age (Estimated) 25
* Number of Previous Marriages 1st
* Race (Original) White
* Birth Date 30 Jun 1907
* Birthplace , , Indiana
* Father's Name Fred Plummer
* Mother's Name Lottie Fr*
* Spouse's Name Helen Finfrock
* Spouse's Residence Place
* Spouse's Gender Female
* Spouse's Age (Estimated) 25
* Spouse's Previous Marriage Number
* Spouse's Race (Original) White
* Spouse's Birth Date 30 Nov 1907
* Spouse's Birthplace , , Indiana
* Spouse's Father's Name Frank Finfrock
* Spouse's Mother's Name Evelyn Dains
* Informant's Name
* Officiator's Name Zeno H Doan
* Page 298
* Record Number
* Reference ID
* GS Film number 002130285
* Digital Folder Number 004204535
* Number of Images 1

Private User
10/26/2013 at 8:25 PM

Lottie remarried also - somebody named George Lindley. Here's #2 Son Dwaine Plummer living with mom and stepdad in 1940:

* Dwaine C Plummer in household of George F Lindley, "United States * Census, 1940"
* Name: Dwaine C Plummer
* Titles and Terms:
* Event Type: Census
* Event Date: 1940
* Event Place: Russiaville, Honey Creek Township, Howard, Indiana, United States
* Gender: Male
* Age: 30
* Marital Status: Single
* Race (Original): White
* Race: White
* Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Stepson
* Relationship to Head of Household: Stepson
* Birthplace: Indiana
* Birth Year (Estimated): 1910
* Last Place of Residence: Same House
* District: 34-33
* Family Number: 14
* Sheet Number and Letter: 10B
* Line Number: 50
* Affiliate Publication Number: T627
* Affiliate Film Number: 1054
* Digital Folder Number: 005459810
* Image Number: 00428
* Household Gender Age Birthplace
* Head George F Lindley M 66 Indiana
* Wife Lottie F Lindley F 61 Indiana
* Stepson Dwaine C Plummer M 30 Indiana

Last word on Dwaine Plummer:

Dwaine E Plummer

United States Social Security Death Index

birth: 13 March 1910

death: 16 July 1988

Age 78

State: Indiana

No details on whether he ever married.

Private User
10/26/2013 at 8:34 PM

And this should be your missing link (Frederick D. Plummer, second wife Helen, and children as of 1940):

* Fredrick D Plummer, "United States Census, 1940"
* Name: Fredrick D Plummer
* Titles and Terms:
* Event Type: Census
* Event Date: 1940
* Event Place: Ward 7, Fort Wayne, Wayne Township, Allen, Indiana, * United States
* Gender: Male
* Age: 32
* Marital Status: Married
* Race (Original): White
* Race: White
* Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
* Relationship to Head of Household: Head
* Birthplace: Indiana
* Birth Year (Estimated): 1908
* Last Place of Residence: Same Place
* District: 94-52
* Family Number: 194
* Sheet Number and Letter: 9B
* Line Number: 54
* Affiliate Publication Number: T627
* Affiliate Film Number: 1116
* Digital Folder Number: 005459872
* Image Number: 00762
* Household Gender Age Birthplace
* Head Fredrick D Plummer M 32 Indiana
* Wife Helen M Plummer F 32 Indiana
* Daughter Rose M Plummer F 12 Indiana
* Son Fredrick D Plummer M 6 Indiana
* Son James E Plummer M 3 Indiana

Private User
10/26/2013 at 9:34 PM

Wasted some time barking up the wrong family tree - there was ANOTHER Fred A. Plummer in Michigan, but he was born ten years later in Raleigh, North Carolina.

This means the information on "your" Fred A.'s parents *may not be correct*.

Private User
10/26/2013 at 9:54 PM

This looks promising:

Asbury Plummer - Susan Chambers, Indiana, 1875

* Name Asbury Plummer
* Event Type Marriage
* Event Date 21 Oct 1875
* Event Place , Hendricks, Indiana
* Alternate Event Place
* Registration Place , Hendricks, Indiana, United States
* Marriage License Date 21 Oct 1875
* Residence Place
* Gender Male
* Age (Estimated)
* Number of Previous Marriages
* Race (Original)
* Birth Date
* Birthplace
* Father's Name
* Mother's Name
* Spouse's Name Susan Chambers
* Spouse's Residence Place
* Spouse's Gender Female
* Spouse's Age (Estimated)
* Spouse's Previous Marriage Number
* Spouse's Race (Original)
* Spouse's Birth Date
* Spouse's Birthplace
* Spouse's Father's Name
* Spouse's Mother's Name
* Informant's Name
* Officiator's Name James W Cutshall
* Page 260
* Record Number
* Reference ID
* GS Film number 001316564
* Digital Folder Number 004714914
* Number of Images 1

1880 Census shows something went Horribly Worng:

Asbery Plummer, "United States Census, 1880"

* Name: Asbery Plummer
* Event Type: Census
* Event Date: 1880
* Event Place: Morgan, Owen, Indiana, United States
* Gender: Male
* Age: 27
* Marital Status: Widowed
* Occupation: Merchant
* Race (Original): W
* Ethnicity: American
* Relationship to Head of Household: Self
* Birthplace: Indiana, United States
* Birth Date: 1853
* Spouse's Name:
* Spouse's Birthplace:
* Father's Name:
* Father's Birthplace: Indiana, United States
* Mother's Name:
* Mother's Birthplace: Indiana, United States
* Page: 251
* Page Letter: D
* Entry Number: 2580
* Affiliate Film Number: T9-0302
* GS Film number: 1254302
* Digital Folder Number: 004240635
* Image Number: 00773

* Household Gender Age Birthplace
* Self Asbery Plummer M 27 Indiana, United States
* Son Fredrick Plummer M 1 Indiana, United States

Private User
10/26/2013 at 10:33 PM

Apparently he was *William* Asbery (or Asbury) Plummer, and he got lucky the second time around:

* Name William A Plummer
* Event Type Marriage
* Event Date 08 Feb 1882
* Event Place Jordanvillage, ,
* Alternate Event Place
* Registration Place , Owen, Indiana, United States
* Marriage License Date
* Residence Place
* Gender Male
* Age (Estimated)
* Number of Previous Marriages 2nd
* Race (Original) White
* Birth Date
* Birthplace Hendricks Indiana
* Father's Name William Plummer
* Mother's Name Matilda Bushiton
* Spouse's Name Jane H Wiley
* Spouse's Residence Place
* Spouse's Gender Female
* Spouse's Age (Estimated)
* Spouse's Previous Marriage Number
* Spouse's Race (Original) White
* Spouse's Birth Date
* Spouse's Birthplace Owen
* Spouse's Father's Name Alexander Wiley
* Spouse's Mother's Name Jane Hall
* Informant's Name Joseph M Wisley
* Officiator's Name William Brown
* Page
* Record Number 11
* Reference ID
* GS Film number 001312989
* Digital Folder Number 004170562
* Number of Images 1

The guy who took the 1860 Census misspelled the name "Plumber":

1860 > INDIANA > MORGAN > MONROE TWP

* William Plumber (sic!) 30
* Malinda (sic!) Plumber 28
* William A. 7
* Thomas A. 5
* Mary L. 3
* Victora (sic!) 2
* Elizabeth C. 7 mo

Information in the 1860-1870 range is very hard to get, because Fold3 has grabbed up so much of it (Civil War-related, don'tchaknow?).

Private User
10/26/2013 at 10:58 PM

Your boy had a bunch of half-siblings:

* Jane H Plummer in household of W A Plummer, "United States
* Census, 1900"
* Name: Jane H Plummer
* Titles and Terms:
* Event Type: Census
* Event Date: 1900
* Event Place: ED 45 Clay Township, Morgan, Indiana, United States
* Birth Date: Feb 1860
* Birthplace: Indiana
* Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
* Father's Birthplace: Scotland
* Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
* Race: White
* Gender: Female
* Marital Status: Married
* Years Married: 18
* Marriage Year (Estimated): 1882
* Mother of how many children: 5
* Number of Living Children: 5
* Immigration Year:
* Page: 8
* Sheet Letter: A
* Family Number: 168
* Reference ID: 13
* GS Film number: 1240394
* Digital Folder Number: 004118645
* Image Number: 00573

* Household Gender Age Birthplace
* Head W A Plummer M 48 Indiana
* Wife Jane H Plummer F 40 Indiana
* Daughter Rosa Plummer F 17 Indiana
* Daughter Lillie Plummer F 17 Indiana (twins???)
* Son Robert A Plummer M 15 Indiana
* Daughter Elsie M Plummer F 13 Indiana
* Daughter Mary E Plummer F 3 Indiana
* Boarder James Ward M 40 Indiana

Private User
10/26/2013 at 11:07 PM

Matilda's last name was Rushton, not "Bushiton":

* Name William Plummer
* Event Type Marriage
* Event Date 12 Mar 1850
* Event Place , Hendricks, Indiana
* Registration Place , Hendricks, Indiana, United States
* Marriage License Date 11 Mar 1850
* Residence Place
* Gender Male
* Spouse's Name Matilda Rushton
* Spouse's Gender Female
* Officiator's Name Nathan Meridith
* Page 122
* Record Number
* Reference ID
* GS Film number 001316562
* Digital Folder Number 004714912
* Number of Images 1

Private User
10/26/2013 at 11:13 PM

Matilda Rushton in household of William Rushton, "United States Census, 1850"
* Name: Matilda Rushton
* Event Type: Census
* Event Date: 1850
* Event Place: Liberty, Hendricks, Indiana, United States
* Gender: Female
* Age: 16
* Marital Status: [Single, but not for long!]
* Race (Original):
* Race:
* Birthplace: Indiana
* Birth Year (Estimated): 1834
* House Number: 130
* Family Number: 132
* Line Number: 7
* Affiliate Publication Number: M432
* Affiliate Film Number: 150
* GS Film number: 442928
* Digital Folder Number: 004191996
* Image Number: 00024
* Household Gender Age Birthplace
* William Rushton M 50 North Carolina
* Mary Rushton F 50 North Carolina
* Henderson Rushton M 20 Indiana
* Ira Rushton F 19 Indiana
* Matilda Rushton F 16 Indiana
* Thomas Rushton M 14 Indiana
* Mary Rushton F 12 Indiana
* William Rushton M 10 Indiana
* Joshua Rushton M 8 Indiana
* Elizabeth Rushton F 6 Indiana
* Enoch Rushton M 4 Indiana

Private User
10/27/2013 at 8:24 AM

William Plummer and Matilda Plummer are on the Big Tree...but on a line from Levi Plummer, Sr. that is known to be compromised at or above him.

Genuine descendants of Thomas Plummer II, of Prince George's (only son of Thomas Plummer I) should belong to the Y-DNA haplogroup G (deep-testing will probably show G2a3b1).

Descendants of Levi Plummer, Sr., test R1b1a2, by both of his wives (so it's not simple confusion over who married whom).

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