I think Geni should consider at limited use of Gedcom uploads. The major problems were in royal families several centuries ago. Why not try Gedcom uploads, where all profiles born before 1700 ( known or estimated) were left out ? It would increase the number of profiles a lot, and the number of dublikates should be reasonable.
The lack of Geni not being able to upload GED from other family tree programs is really a deal killer of the usefullness of the software. All other major Family Tree programs who have been in this field for 20 to 30 years have no problem uploading a GED. Geni, needs to develope their expertise in the field of genealogy. Until this feature is added I do not see many experienced or serious users even considering this limited program.
Private User and Gary Yeary do you know that every time you would upload a gedcom where there are duplicates of what is allready uploaded to Geni, someone would have to merge these new duplicates into the existing ones. So when your second cousin adds his new gedcom for the 12th time with 10000 persons, how would you feel like merging them again (and again, and again, and again, and ......) Because it would probably be your job since your second cousin wouldn't care to do that job.
The major problem is between 1880 and 1700 in a lot of countries and not before 1700, before 1700 there are only a few lines that are traceable with good sources, the time between 1880 to 1700 there are a lot of good sources which ofcourse makes a lot of profiles on Geni, and this is the big merging area and it has lots of problems with comparing the profiles because of the the information in the different sources.
Ofcourse all programs which have been in this field for 20-30 years have no problems uploading a gedcom, but neither of them used a collaborative site where the purpose was one profile of each person, and the gedcom-standard is at the moment obsolete, it hasn't had any development in at least 15 years, and I'll guess both of you know what that means in our IT-world.
I will keep your names in my addressbook for future use, if/when Geni opens up for gedcom-imports, you may expect to be contacted for doing a merging job of all the new duplicates. Look forward to it.
Thank you for your feed back.
HMM, collaborative is not unique to Geni, I have been sharing Family Information for years on another site including documentation, photos, etc. A significant portion of my Family Tree is the result of others and the automated suggestions that a possible match was available in another members tree. The choice always is mine as who and what i choose to merge into my tree.
Trying to reinvent the wheel is always a challenge, but I would suggest that the good Mormon folks are the definitive source for everything genealogy. It is a major tenet of their faith and as such have devoted enormous resources and dollars into getting it right. I will continue to dabble with Genie as a favor to a young relative that just discovered the world of family history via a TED video.praising Geni.
Merging duplicates is an issue, but it has not been an overwhelming issue in the other Family Tree applications that I use. Certainly the larger the data base the more opportunity.
Granted, I have limited exposure to Geni, but in my humble opinion it is still clumsy and not intuitive. Ok for newbies, but not ready for prime time. I would suggest a bit of reverse engineering to accelerate the progress of this application/program. Everyone else in the world of software development does it. What is the old adage flattery is the sincerest form of flattery.
I hope that nobody is stupid enough to add a new version of his tree by gedcom. The number of serious researchs with really big trees is limited, so few are very near relatives with another. But I agree, that people could copy a big tree from somewhere and add it to Geni and that would be a problem. Anyhow, if Geni wants to get new serious research, the possibility to use Gedcom is essential and worth trying with sensible limitations.
In case people are still searching:
https://www.geni.com/projects/SmartCopy/18783
Although it's a pretty laboureous process, it does apparently work.