Jacques Pinard, SV/PROG - Record of Alternative Data After Merges

Birth Date c. 1664 OR 1665

Birth Location: La Bauce, Guenrouet, Pays de la Loire, France OR Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, Pays de la Loire, France

http://huguenots-france.org/france/loire/nantes/pag2.htm#44 says:
"Gender: Male Birth: 18 June 1666 in, Villoin, Baptism: 29 June 1666 to 44 ER Blain, Loire ATLANTIC Godfather (paternal uncle) Pineau, Henry Godmother JOLAN, Suzanne"

Does anybody have a better sense of French geography than me to help pinpoint which of the two above is closer to ' Villoin'?

I haven't been able to find a place called Villoin in France...or even Villion...The closest spelling of anywhere in the Loire-Atlantique area, which covers both the Guenrouet, & Nantes region, is a place called Villepot...

Damn :-(

Sorry!

Unless it's a place that no longer exists?.......Though that doesn't really help!

Oh well, at least it's logged here for when we know more.

Re. Villoin, the place where Jacques & his siblings were born..I have now seen the site where this information came from, & I think that Villoin, may have been the name of the family property..They were all born there, at home, & then taken to nearby Blain later for baptism..Judging by his title he was a man of at least some substance.

I found some more information on a French site..Jacques Pineau ca 1630, who married Marthe Jollan..She was the daughter of Daniel Jollan, Sieur des Roches..He was the brother of Pierre Jollan, who died without issue..& Jacques Jollan de Clerville..(Jacques Jollan de C. married twice, & his family continues.)..Their parents were:Jean Jollann born 13th June 1537 in Guérande, Loire-Atlantique..He was Sieur de Beutebaud,& a Notary in Guérande..& his wife Jeanne le Marié......There was quite a bit of family history on the site, but I've put down here the most pertinent facts.

Follow up to Villoin:..On another French site, I read that:" During the Wars of Religion, only the little Seigneurie of Vilhouin, with the Pineau family, was Protestant during the 17th C"

Please see this discussion too http://www.geni.com/discussions/108949?msg=867492

I don't think our Jacques was really a Pineau. His name is consistently spelt Pinart/Pinard in Delft and his signature is Jacque Pinard. Also, his birthdate is c 1664 according to the 'Voorschooten' passenger list, not 1666.

We should be researching Dreux and the Reformed church at La Fontaine-sous-Prémont, I would suggest.

Thanks Private for directing Private User there, her research skills and ability to browse the French sites, can only be an asset to you there. With the two of you working on it, we'll have the best answer we can with the info at hand.

I have found this site where 3 Pinart/Pinard's abjured the Calvinistic faith on 15 Nov 1785 @ Dreux. http://huguenots-france.org/france/centre/dreux/abjurations_dreux3.htm

One is M Pinard, one Jean Pinart and one Jacques Pinard. I think the third might be our man.

He was living in St Aechten at the time of his ondertrouw in Delft to Esther Fouche in 1687. He must have fled there after the abjuration and would have joined the Protestant community with a letter of attestation from La Fontaine-sous-Prémont.

I'll find it yet!

I'm afraid Jansi is right...It is Jacques Pinard, born 1665 in La Fontaine-sous-Prémont..Married first Esther Foucher in Delft..Later married Marie le Févre, daughter of Pierre la Févre & Marie de Gravé.....I'm disappointed as the Pineau line looked more interesting!

Hmm, yes me too. Once you two are happy with the answer you've come to, we can start the changes.
I'd like to wait a day or so to see if Caroline Balona Pienaar comes back to the other discussion to answer where she got the parents from, in case there's another factor to consider,
but I'm inclined to agree with you both here.

You never know - it may turn out that the Pinard's are interesting as well.

One thing: he was born in Dreux. See http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreux.

There were at least three churches circa 1660 in Dreux. One was Saint Pierre, another Saint-Jean-en-la-Plaine (both Catholic). The Protestant church was Fontaine-sous-Prémont, where Jacques would have been baptised, although the entry is not to be found here http://huguenots-france.org/france/centre/fontaine/fontaine.htm

The registers for the two catholic churches are here http://www.archives28.fr/ec/index.php

Stem

Bumping for Private User

Death Date before December 3, 1713 12 April 1713

Birth Location La Fontaine-sous-Prémont, Hurepoix, Il de France, France Bretagne, France
Death Date before December 3, 1713 17 August 1713

Birth Location La Fontaine-sous-Prémont, Hurepoix, Il de France, France La Beuce, Pays Chartrain, France
Death Date before December 3, 1713 13 April 1713