UNKNOWN (NOT NATIVE) - What's in a name?

Started by Roland Joseph Eugene Belanger on Saturday, September 1, 2012
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It is interesting that the unknown mother (MicMac woman PROVEN WRONG Lambert) is stated as the daughter of Chief Sachem. I think that Jehan Lambert's fellow shipmate did marry the daughter of Chief Sachem. It wouldn't be illogical to assume that he also married one other daughter. Who can really disprove this?

Canadian historian/compiler of history Dick Garneau http://www.telusplanet.net/public/dgarneau/direct.htm has published that her possible name is Marie Radegonde Kagijonais. I don't know if anyone has seen this before or if it was a fabricated name but it is a very good consideration for first names. This has merit because the name Marie is always given by the priest to a female 'savage' child in baptism. The second name Radegonde may have also come from the priest after a person he admired in his own European family. Good omen names of a Saint and another from a notable French person surely a blessing on the life of this new person. The French were notorious for applying names to themselves and others after a significant person(s) in France that were admired. I have been baptized with many given names to assure my success in life. Probably not a good example!

Lets get together on this! We are the descendants of an unknown ancestor who NO ONE has found or proven to have another name. Even her DNA points more toward Mi’kmaq than European. See my arguments on this http://newfrancemetis.blogspot.ca/ The possibility of finding records substantiating her real name and origin is remote!

She deserves and must have a name. Culturally it is our duty to give her a name.

So, as it is the custom of the Mi’kmaq to give a name to someone who has none is a priority. Let's put our resources together and agree on an official name for her.

Roland Belanger BA. BEd.
Hillsdale ON L0L 1V0 Canada

Hi Roland,

I was doing some personal research on her as part of a discussion on this Geni page: http://www.geni.com/discussions/122774. I hope you can access it. As you can tell in our research, no one came up with the Radegonde name which I just found myself. We know her as Jeanne-Marie Kagigoniac or Kagijonais. However we have a lot of the same questions. After finding other evidence, we are having more trouble connecting her with Chief (Sachem) Henri Membertou. And under the Radegonde name, I am finding other family trees with people I've never seen noted on my tree before. It's all becoming so confusing. Come over and take a look. Perhaps you can help solve the mystery.

Nada

Nada, I'm going to confuse you even more! I found this reference on familylink.com:
Jean Kagigconiac Kagijonais (born 1580)
Name Birth Date Birth Place Death Date
Radegonde Lambert (born Kagijonais Mikmaq) 1591 Place Date, 1671
Marie Radegonde Lambert (born Kagejoneas) 1600 Date,

I don't know what evidence this person has concerning the Kagijonais family. I think that the Radeqonde here was also Jeanne Marie born a Kagejonias who married Jean Lambert. Her father could have been Louis as you mentioned--but who knows. I doubt this is going to be sorted out any time soon. Pretty confusing!

I have accepted the premise that Jean Lambert's wife is indeed indigenous, despite Steven White's (Moncton University) irrational rendition that Jean Lambert's daughter was not indigenous and came with her husband on board a ship from France (pure speculation)---and---despite her reported haplogroup X, (European) mtDNA from direct descendants. (Canadian history supports Viking contact, with the same mtDNA a thousand years ago!).

BUT LET'S KEEP DIGGING!

Roly

You are so right Roly! I am confused. But I'm with you about digging some more. It's like every new door we open ends up opening another mystery. But it also makes it more intriguing. Happy digging! And keep in touch.

Nada

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