Thomas Leonard - Parentage here accurate?

Good catch about a bad merge. There is nothing in the parents "about" or in Thomas Leonard's to indicate a relationship between them. I have "orphaned " Thomas by removing the parent relationship.

Many Many Books have been written on these lines of decent by Professional Genealogist. I would advise that you join the NEHGS and do hands on Research or buy a book on the Wentworth family for hands on research where you can check out for yourself those proofs and citations or documents needed. for a family connection. Ancestry.com Research is great for an Beginner .

I spoke with the curator who is not available to do research for a couple of weeks and he will look into it further when he's back where he has resources to do some research. I am a Leonard/Lennard descendant and also interested, but won't have much time until July myself. Thanks for the heads up and thanks Erica!

I expect that our immigrant has unknown UK origins or it would be easily available information. But I hope others help take the challenge.

http://www.geni.com/projects/Early-Families-of-Taunton-Massachusett... has some background on the Leonard family and possibly some sources. I know that I found a source online.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-XYtAAAAYAAJ&dq=Leonard%20fami...

All that is known of the father of the two who emigrated to New England is his name "Thomas". There is some speculation in the above source of a link to the parents that were attached to Thomas Leonard, but skimming quickly, I believe it to be improbable and unfounded. Also, I'm not sure where the title Major came from!

Looks like someone has merged the father of the two brothers who immigrated to Rayham, MA with a later Leonard: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=17539346

http://www.bradsport.com/jamesleonarddescendants1107/b1684.htm did some nice research also. I would conclude that Erica is correct and that other than knowing where they came from in Wales, it's not clear what the ancestry of the various Leonards in the early 1600s is.

I just added to the About Me Section some Avenues for Research . Hope this is of some help.

Thanks Private User.

Revisiting Thomas Leonard of Pontypool, Monmouth. I see that a burial location Herstmonceux, East Sussex was added some time ago. Does this make sense, given that he lived in Pontypool?

Is there actually a source for where he is buried?

Okay, I figured out the problem. Somehow (through a bad merge?) this information is from the location of the noble Lennard family that this family has sometimes been assumed to descend from. Never proven through evidence. I am going to delete the burial site and lock that field :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herstmonceux_Castle

Even worse, the burial location was due to a link with a burial record for Thomas Lannard from MH. Which I have unconfirmed.

Thomas Leonard. (Not the son of the Fiennes but is descendent of the Fiennes)
Born May 23, 1577 in Chevering, Kent, England
Son of Sampson Leonard and Eleanore (Cresswell) Leonard
Husband of Lydia (White) Leonard — married 1600 in Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
Father of John Leonard and James Leonard the 1st.
Died November 6, 1638 in Tauton, BristolCounty, Massachusetts, USA

The other Thomas Lennard we are talking about was a descendant and nephew of Sampson and Lady Margaret Fiennes in Chevering, Kent, England. Son of James Lennard the 2nd. Born in the 1472. Thomas was executed for treason by King Henry VIII and he had no children but was married to Jane Palmer. The Lennard/Leonard are my ancestors and there are living Leonard's in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Maryland. I am the 12th descendant of the Lennards/Leonards through my mothers side.

Same goes to Sampson Leonard WHO DID NOT MARRY Margaret Fiennes, Baroness Dacre! He was born at London, Middlesex, England. He married to Eleanore Cresswell, daughter of Thomas Cresswell and Julian Tichborne, before 1576 at of Odinham, Hampshire, England.

The Samson Lennard (d. 1633), genealogist and translator, was son of William Lennard of Chevening aud Knole, Kent, by Anne, daughter and heir of John Perkins of Richmond, Surrey. He was cousin of Samson Lennard of Chevening, who married Margaret, baroness Dacre, and of whom honourable mention is made by Camden in his 'Britannia.' His early life was spent in military service. He accompanied {Sir {DNB lkpl|Sidney, Philip (1554-1586)|Philip Sidney}} to the Netherlands, and was with him when he received his fatal wound at the battle of Zutphen in 1586. Subsequently he devoted himself to literature, being patronised by some of the principal persons of his time, particularly by Prince Henry and William Herbert, third earl of Pembroke. Entering the College of Arms he was appointed Rouge-rose pursuivant extraordinary, by patent 11 March 1614-15, and created Bluemantle pursuivant 22 March 1615-16. He was buried in the church of St. Benet, Paul's Wharf, on 17 Aug. 1633.

Amy Louise Herzog-Farrens

Can you provide primary sources for the parents of Thomas Leonard or reliable genealogical research? I was not able to find any.

Such as scholarly articles, baptismal and marriage records, etc.

He is my 9th great grandfather :)

Your information is great, but give the confusion about his parentage online, I want to make sure that this is documented information.

I found it in wikitree and I also have a book about the life of John Lennard. If you would like me to and you a copy, please email me at amy.farrens@yahoo.com to get your email address. Amy. He is also my 9th great grandfather.

Copy of archives of the Lennard families

https://archive.org/details/accountoffamilie01barr

I'm scanning the Lennard family account but I don't see anything other than this:

A Mr. Ebenezer Leonard (died 1894) °f Boston, U.S.A., a
very diligent antiquary, said he had discovered a John Lennard
of Chcpstcd in 1440 who was the father of this George, and
was probably born in the end of the fourteenth century, but he
gives no reference to where he found him mentioned.

While on the subject of this Mr. Ebenezcr Leonard I
may mention that he was a member of a family in America,
who for more than 200 years have maintained a tradition
that they are descended from the Lennards of Chevening. At
the time of the War of Independence they remained loyal to
England, and one of them is said to have fitted out a small
'fleet' at his own expense to fight for the Crown. In 1770
George Leonard, a colonel in the Royal American Guards,
visited England and had several interviews with Thomas Lord

Dacre, both at Belhus and Bruton Street. The latter placed
his family muniments at his guest's disposal with every wish
that he would be able to prove his relationship with him, as he
would have greatly preferred that his title should descend to
one of his own name than to one of his mother's descendants
by her second marriage. These American Leonards believe that
they are descended from Samson Lennard of Chevening, or from
his cousin Sampson Lennard the herald.

Mr. J. H. Round and other modern antiquaries have poured
much well-deserved scorn upon those writers of family histories
who, in a most unblushing manner, lay claim to fictitious
progenitors of high degree, frequently said to have come over
with the Conqueror, or even to have been at home to receive
him upon his arrival. Assertions that might have passed
unquestioned years ago, are nowadays apt to be considered
critically by at least some of one's readers, and it behoves any
person writing a family history at the present time to be very
careful before he places implicit confidence in pedigrees made
out by the older school of genealogists, and especially in those
manufactured by the Elizabethan heralds. He ought, moreover,
to mention any facts he may have discovered in the course of
his researches which bear on his subject, whether such facts
tend to exhibit the person of whom he is writing in an exalted
or a humble sphere of life. This being so, I think I ought to
draw attention to the following entry among the archives of
the city of Canterbury :

' 1480, 148 1, Nomina Carnificum forinsecorum qui tenent
shamella cooperta \ ' here follows a list of twelve names of persons
each apparently paying a rent of ' xii s ,' and among these names
is ' Joh. Lenard.' L I have no evidence to show that this ' Joh.
Lenard ' the butcher was any relation to George Lennard the
squire, and indeed I have no reason to think that he was, but it
is proper to mention the occurrence of the name in this list. The
name of ' Lennard ' is not a very common one in England, and
the conjunction with it of the Christian name John, which about
this period was a very favourite one in our family, is somewhat
suggestive : moreover, Canterbury and Chepsted are both in
the same county, and I feel it is not impossible that this John
was some relation to George Lennard.

Which basically says that the Lennard writing this family history has no evidence that the American Lennnard / Leonard family is related to his family.