Changes to Public Profiles - still planned? Implications!!?

Not eliminating manager, only removing the listing of the managers on the frontpage of the profiles and instead, if anything should be listed, show the contributors on the profile, - i.e. those who actually are maintaining the profile based on the revision history.

There are way to many people who's main interest is in getting listed as the manager, especially as the primary manager, instead of contributing to make a profile better and more accurate.

Glad to hear, the - "top dog" profile manager display (few with 300+ managers) - will be gone 1 day.

Some users - even Delete profiles and Create New ones OR Create Duplicates - so they can be the Primary manager.

This only creates a mess - for others working or viewing the tree branch.

Many of us with Basic accounts do not want to be locked out of editing 'our' Profiles [whether belonging to us-alone, or us-and-others].

Do I understand correctly that we will be able to continue editing Public Profiles we manage after this change (if and when it comes) -- or is that uncertain or ??

Geni's suggestion have been de-emphasizing managers, - i.e removing the focus on who is the managers of a public profile. Your access rights to the profile will not be changed.

My suggestion in addition to that is that, - if any names should be mentioned, we should list the names on those who are maintaining a profile, sometimes even without being a manager of it. Adding original sources, histories, images could for example give extra points.

I am really tired of merging duplicate profiles that does not bring in anything new into the line or replying on management requests. My big hope is that users stops focusing on being a manager and instead spend some time on doing research, fixing errors, adding sources, documents, histories, images etc to the profiles.

Geni is not planning on removing managers or locking anyone out of profiles. We do want to de-emphasize the list of managers and get people used to looking at the revisions as a more accurate guide to who is actively working on profiles. This change will not have any effect on anyone's management rights.

@VIrginia You say
"No matter what you do or how hard you try. You will never have a perfect tree and there will always be things to tweek. So try to relax and enjoy the tree and the relations that you have never met before. That is more important then perfection. That is the lesson we are all in the process of learning while working on this tree"

I say the lesson we need to take from Geni is how to work well together to collaborate and cooperate in such a way as not to create more work either for those working now or those generations that will follow. By having managers listed on the front page of the provile it makes people feel it is important to have ones name listed whereas in practical terms it really makes no difference because whether you are manager or not you can still edit the profile. It will make no difference to how much you can do if the names are not listed at the front but the difference it will make is that people will be less inclined to create duplicate profiles just to get their names listed and thus will reduce the workload.It will not block anyone from working on their family.

You say "This is a community tree. Not a single members tree. And no one is out to vandalize it. There is no need to lock profiles."

I regret to say that all people in the world are not as honest or hardworking as yourself and that there are unfortunately people who are out to vandalise the tree. Some out of frustrations, some out of sheer meanness or vandalistic motives and some out of revenge. Regretably there are areas of the tree where the locking of profiles is necessary but you are not blocked from adding anything to your family profiles. If one of these is locked you can still add to it by contacting the curator. Many curators are actually as against locking as you are yourself. For example, http://www.geni.com/people/Bj%C3%B8rn-P-Brox/285725352490006131 and those that do support locking (myself included) only use it where necessary.

Michelle - thanks much for that assurance. If it /those plans should ever change, please please see we get advance notice. I will now try not to worry about that. Thanks.